Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" He said he's on the board of Sandusky's charity and that the board has known about these allegations for years. So sure, he cried, boo hoo. Meanwhile kids were being abused and he did nothing. Didn't even distance himself from the pervert. But again, he cried on national TV so that makes everything alright. Poor Matt Millen, the oldest victim in this tragedy.
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" Board has known about the allegations. Key word allegations. It wasn't until now that they found enough substance to move forward and charge him. I dont think he was getting emotional out of pity for himself. I think he got emotional, because a school he went to and a coach that he played for is a sick and twisted pervert.
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" Would you sit on the board of a charity if you heard rumors that the leader of that charity was molesting children, especially when the mission/purpose of the charity gives him easy access to children?
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" Makes you wonder how involved he was with the charity, or if it was just a charity for Millen to get involved in. Makes you wonder if he even caught wind of the rumors since it was being covered up. How long have these allegations been public knowledge? I find it hard to believe that Millen is just using his Sportcenter interview as a platform of pity for himself. Kinda laughable. He was emotional because some sick and twisted shit happened way too close to home. I'd be kind of angry and emotional too.
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" Any responsible adult on that charity board would have called for Sandusky to have no involvement with children until a thorough investigation had been completed and he had been cleared of allegations/charges. And if they continued to allow him to have access to children involved in the charity afterwards then every single adult in every institute that knew about these allegations are responsible for the continued abuse of children. Pedophiles do not stop at one victim. Hiding behind 'I fulfilled my legal obligations' line in a case like this is pathetic.
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" That pep rally outside of Paterno's house last night was disgusting. Are these people living in a bubble? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXoXdIJQ7I [video=youtube;7JXoXdIJQ7I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXoXdIJQ7I[/video]
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" this really belongs in my "young Americans today" rant in the other thread, but this is from Geoff Baker, columnist for Seattle Times (and born in Canada, so that's where the hockey reference comes from):
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" Please don't act like this is a generational thing. People in the 50s and 60s ignored and outright threw alleged victims under the bus for trying to bring to light the crimes of their friends/famous people, etc. For decades people having been getting fired for bringing up allegations against high-ranking employees such as rape, molestation, etc. It is because they can't imagine they would cheer for someone who would do such evil things so they continue to defend them to defend themselves. It is not a 'young Americans today' thing, it is a human being thing that has happened since the dawn of time. It is disgusting now, and it has been disgusting forever.
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" So what you're telling me is that a multi-generational following supports things like Real World, Kim Kardashian/Paris Hilton, rallying for football coaches but not victims' rights? That no one comes out against pastors, Boy Scout leaders, etc.? I completely disagree. Maybe there were different things decades ago that people didn't speak up about. But for decades there have been whistleblower protections for bringing up allegations against anyone. To put it in perspective, Occupy Penn State got this response: Read more: http://www.centredaily.com/2011/10/17/2953588/occupy-movement-comes-to-penn.html#ixzz1dELBANR6
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" My mother is 62, and her boyfriend is 67, and they know far more about the Kardashians and Paris Hilton, and all the other reality shows than I do, and I am 26. All their friends do as well. Ranging from 50-70. Oddly, most of my friends range 20-32 and only know what they see when watching or reading the news. Do you really think the demographic for Real HouseWives: whatever city, a reality show with people aged 30-50 is really that of "young Americans"? I'd wager it is probably for people aged 30-50, because I don't know anyone my age that watches it. But I do know a good number of people older than me who do. You do understand what kind of culture we live in right? Where rape victims are questioned and told they deserved it, maybe if they had dressed differently, they must have been looking for it with a skirt that low. Where a ten year old girl can be gang-raped by over a dozen men ages 14-24 and people said well, she was dressed far older than she was, where were her parents, what did they teach her, those poor boys they had their entire lives ahead of them. This said by people of all ages in the community. How often do you hear "S/he seemed like such a nice person, I can't really imagine this being true, I -hope- not". This isn't a new culture - this is a culture that has existed since the beginning of time. It isn't everyone, of course, but it is a good number. That is why a bunch of dumb kids went and rallied outside of Paterno's house, because they can't imagine the man they so admire doing something so vile as to not report child molestation to the cops and they rally around his "fulfilled his legal obligation" spiel. Part of the same reason, I imagine, Paterno didn't report it to the cops - because he couldn't imagine his friend doing something so vile as to molest a kid. Clearly the guy who told him must have been making it up, or heard wrong. Why get the cops involved? Just tell the person above you and let them handle it. Because really, he seems like such a nice guy, I can't imagine him doing that, he's my friend afterall, right? I wouldn't be friends with a child molester. And by the way, decades ago there were people that didn't speak up about child molestation, or shrugged it off because "he's such a good man he'd never hurt any kids, they just must be confused." Not many people want to believe bad things about their friends until they see it with their own eyes. Devastating for the kids involved - past, present, and future. What those students did rallying outside Paterno's home and treating him like he's innocent or did what he was supposed to is disgusting, of this there is no doubt. It makes me angry. But it isn't a generational thing, please don't try to comfort yourself by thinking only young people defend him earnestly. I've seen people of all ages do it.
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" The one thing that I haven't seen brought up is in the world of Penn State Paterno outranks the AD. Sure on paper the AD oversees all of the coaches but before all of this came to light if Paterno had wanted the AD fired the AD would be gone but if the AD wanted Paterno gone there is no way in hell that would happen. It's a crime that the AD didn't report the child abuse but the reason it's not a crime for Paterno is that he reported it to "his boss". At Penn State is the AD really Paterno's boss? It will be interesting to follow this and to see if the AD falls on his sword and takes the punishment but if he does talk it wouldn't surprise me if it was Paterno's decision not to go to the cops.
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" He reported it to his boss because the guy was retired at the time it was reported to him, right? Paterno presumably didn't manage the guy's office or his access or anything else related to his retirement. In any case, I don't know that he had a moral responsibility to go to the police. The person who saw it probably did, and the person to whom Joe took the information to probably did, but Paterno was in a hearsay situation where (at least in the incident that I am talking about) he had no first-hand knowledge nor institutional responsibility. Ed O.
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" Paterno is to retire at season's end according to a release by him, and this is a great article by Reilly over on ESPN about how so many adults failed these kids (and how often it happens), and how people try to justify it in their minds for not reporting to the police. http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7208581/rick-reilly-penn-state-scandal
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" While we'll never know what was said, when Paterno told the AD I could see the conversation going one of two ways with the AD saying, 1. "Okay, thanks for bringing this to my attention. I will handle it." or 2. "Fuck Joe, what do you think we should do?" Since absolutely nothing was done and the AD even went so far as to lie to a grand jury I'm just guessing that the conversation was closer to #2 than it was to #1. And dear god yes, Joe Paterno had a moral responsibility to do a hell of a lot more than what he did. Legally? No. Morally? Yes!
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" "Does Paterno have grandkids? (Yes, 17.) How would he feel if it were one of his grandkids in that shower with the coach? What would he have done then" -- Sheldon Kennedy, former NHL player and abuse victim
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7211798&categoryid=2564308 I think this is one of the only times I have agreed with SAS and tendency to yell.
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" That was good. Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless nailed it! Joe Paterno must go NOW!
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" PSU Prez may be next... http://news.yahoo.com/clock-running-down-paterno-penn-state-icon-002308649.html
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...porn_n_1084381.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003 Good protection for whistleblower who did the right thing here, yup.
Re: And the name of his book is "Touched" This... I can't stand SAS but he's right on here. The purpose of Penn State (and every other college/university/school) is to provide higher education to young people (and not just play football). He has shown he does not care about the kids, this is all about his legacy, and they can't let him represent the school for 1 more second.
