Racism regarding Tim Tebow?

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  1. NewYorkBuc

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    I have been thinking of this issue about Tim Tebow and I feel that with regard to the majority of African American analysts' ideas about Tim Tebow- their ideas are race driven (obviously Hoge and some others have their own stardom in mind). But, many black analysts (and players) have said outward that they are angered by Vick's treatment - and if he were white- he would have not been made into such a Villan. This love affair with Vick made me look into this bashing of Vick- and I have only seen one African American analyst beyond a few african american basketball players (a current player who was a guest analyst) who supported Tebow. Every other African American analyst (dozens of them) have thrown Tebow under the bus and have been very negative. I got to thinking about it a few weeks ago- and thought the motivation must be the belief that Tim Tebow is being elavated by white fans because Christian fans are racist and want him to win. We went through this with the NBA when many black analysts believed that Larry Bird got all the attention that he did because he was white. I felt that the must have believed that Tebow was getting a pass because he was white- and that black quarterbacks who were mobile did not get such a pass. Well, today on TV- Steven A. Smith (a total racist) was on with Cordell Stewart and they were arguing with another analyst about Tebow and Stewart finally said that there is alot of animosity towards Tebow by black quarterbacks because black quarterbacks never got the benefit of the doubt that Tebow got- i.e. the Charlie Wards, Warren Moon's etc. He was blatantly saying that the animosity towards Tebow is the feeling that he is getting a pass because he is a white quarterback- and when he said this- Steven A. Smith got up and hugged him and said "I could not say it any better." Now you are to tell me that this is not racism? We need to start holding these black sports announcers to the same standards of sensitivity towards race that whites are held to. Rush Limbaugh (I think that he is a jerk) was bounced because he said that that media wanted black quarterbacks to succeed. Will ESPN now bounce Steven A. Smith and Cordell Stewart for making the same kind of comments? I bet that not one word will be said about it...and that is why the NFL is going to lose people. IF they want to turn this into another NBA where black analysts have sat around blatantly bashing the games of every white player- they will lose alot of us. Just the thoughts of someone who is fed up with a double standard.
     
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    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I dont know if anything was referring to race or intended for that. But I will say this. As a Bronco fan, I would take Vick, and Newton a million times over Tebow. Is he the first ever Fullback to be drafted in the First Round?
     
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    If Tebow finishes the year .500 as a starter he will get massively more respect. Right now its too small a sample size with wins against a winless Dolphins team and a Raiders squad missing both their MVP RB and a QB on his first franchise start.

    Tebow is a far better runner than Cam, there is a reason Cam was his backup at Florida. Tebow has the running skills of an elite running back. But if you watch him throwing the ball in games instead of critiquing analysts you can see some of his god awful passing issues. Maybe an offense can be designed around the option or some schemes that allows him to be a very successful quarterback. Hell the Dolphins a few years ago reeled off big wins by playing offense without a QB for basically every snap.

    I was intrigued to see McGahee have such a dominant day running the ball in the Raider game. The Broncos ran for 300 yards, you can live with 110 passing yards with such crazy running output. The Raiders defense had to have a spy ready in case Tebow ran the option and that spy put the defense out of their normal running defense, allowing McGahee to have massive running holes between the tackles. Makes you think about the success McCoy has in Philly playing with another scrambling QB. Maybe Tebow can be successful in that type of offense.
     
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    Netwton has more of a fullback body then Tebow. Vick has the body of a corner.
     
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    I was referring more to what the players might be best suited for in the NFL. It was more tongue in cheek to my lack of hope with Tebow as the starting QB of my team.
     
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    I'll trade you both tav Jackson and Charlie whitehurst for him
     
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    lol throw in a 4th rounder and I might take you up on that.
     
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    Tell you what...Jackson/Whitehurst/4th for Tebow/Quinn. We're gonna need a clipboard holder, and I've heard that Ladies Like Brady's Hair. Or maybe that was Chicks Dig the Long Ball. Or something like that.
     
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    Bush had more yards from scrimmage against the Chargers than McFadden has ever had. Bush should be a starter somewhere.
     
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    [video=youtube;hzhUi-7U-Ho]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzhUi-7U-Ho[/video]
     
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    LOL. I remember that, and didn't think about it b/c it wasn't the Christian thing, but you're absolutely right.
     
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    After a full half, he's 0-4. 2 of those attempts were in the last minute and one was a shovel pass. They're winning so far, but at some point (maybe not this game) he is going to get hurt.
     
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    Well, maybe all he needs is 1 good throw a game. I don't see KC scoring 10 points to tie this up. If the scoreline stands, we'll have a repeat of the post Miami game debate.
     
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    ...as ugly as it is, Tim Tebow just wins!

    [video=youtube;dho3f16Cj3U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dho3f16Cj3U[/video]
     

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