The Official S2 Decertification Thread...........

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  1. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Can somebody who understands exactly what this means break it down? What's it going to take to make it happen, how long? Ramifications?
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    It means the end of the union. The owners would be subject to anti-trust laws instead of labor/collective bargaining law.

    The players would lose all of the things they gained in collective bargaining, like minimum salaries, pension, guaranteed contracts, etc.

    The players would be free to negotiate, individually, any contract they want with a team.
     
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    I think the players would be naive to do this. Professional sports needs unions.
     
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  4. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Am I wrong to believe that that would be a giant clusterfuck!!!!??? What a mess.
     
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  5. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    This has never happened in professional sports right?
     
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    How long until we see replacement players?
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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  8. THE HCP

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    Wow! Scab players, could you imagine?
     
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    It will be hard, but I will make the sacrifice and cross the picket line.
     
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    The NFL just de-certified a couple of months ago
     
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    Not only will we get replacement players, but when mid level guys are in danger of losing their homes and such, we will see them as well.
     
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    If there is no union, how can there be "scabs"? I can't believe low and mid-level players would vote to cut their own throats to make the elite players even richer. It's madness.
     
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  13. THE HCP

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    I remember back in the day scab players playing in the NFL.
     
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    Man I'm so relieved after reading this thread. I read the title and thought we were decertifying Denny's board and moving somewhere else. I hate having to move with the holidays coming.
     
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    I'm moving into my new house 3 days before Thanksgiving:/ :MARIS61:
     
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    The owners will lose $350M each, if the players leave for Europe and China and are permanently replaced by scabs. With attendance at about 4000 per game, the owners won't take in enough money to pay fixed bills like arena rent, etc. With a bankrupt league, they'll lose their entire investments in the teams.
     
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  18. THE HCP

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    They haven't officially decertified right?
     
    THE HCP, Nov 14, 2011
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  19. ironcrotch

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    I think it ultimately means the same thing, one is voluntary and the other is involuntary.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/940270-nba-lockout-players-reject-ultimatum-plan-to-decertify
     
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  20. BrianFromWA

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    does it seem to anyone else like the union strategy has been to avoid a rank-and-file vote at all costs?
     
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