"I don't want any of my clients playing for Paul Allen"

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    SlyPokerDog, Nov 11, 2011
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    oh noez, what are we going to do without free agent signings? :MARIS61:
     
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    You mean, the guys who've seen their teams a) not even be in the hunt for FAs, and b) own teams that stars are colluding to get away from? Real "hardliners", those guys.
     
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    His clients probably won't be playing for any owner until this time next year.
     
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    This guy is an idiot of an agent, if that's the case he's trying to sell.

    Especially considering money talks and agents are full of shit.






    wait, that's now how the saying goes.
     
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    This agent will shit a brick when all contracts are voided if they decert.
     
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    So the agents are planning collusion. That's good info to have before the lawsuits start
     
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    So we will no longer be the free agency hotbed that Hedo took a shit on?
     
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    Only free agents we can sign are guys trying to run away from the Mormons.
     
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    I don't think that employees are liable for collusion. Anti-competitive behavior is regulated to protect employees, not employers as I understand it.

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    So the agent is saying Portland is going to have to overpay to attract free agents here ... and this is different from how things have been forever, how exactly?
     
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    In the general labor sense I defer to your expertise, but I know that in at least the NBA and NFL players are subject to the same non-tamper rules as agents, GMs, etc. for players under another contract. So if, for instance, Wade wooed LBJ and Bosh to come to MIA while they were still under their respective contracts, that's against league rules (I imagine it's in the CBA somewhere, since I've seen multiple respected guys quote it). If he waited until July 1, when they were free agents, then it's ok. Most people get around this by saying "I swear, I didn't talk to them until they were FAs," and it's generally accepted. However, when it's blatantly in violation, the league has stopped it.

     
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    If the union stays intact, it would certainly be considered collusion if members of that union have an agreement not to work with certain teams also under that CBA.
     
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    I'll add that this agent's statement will only strengthen the resolve of the so-called 'hardline' owners. If I'm Paul Allen or some other small market owner, I go back to pushing for a hard cap and 25% automatically off of the salary cap.

    The players' seem to be in disarry at this point in time. Who is the actual leader of them? Hunter? Fisher? Paul Pierce? Nameless agents?
     
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    Really?

    Why do you say that?

    My understanding is that collusion is an antitrust issue, and not one of labor law.

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    Now that there is no official union, it would be collusion...right?
     
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    The opposite. Now that there is no negotiated CBA, and no union, players and agents can certainly conspire to freeze some teams out of the process. The CBA not only protects the players, but it also protects the owners.
     
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    I don't know if collusion charges can be made against employees, rather than employers. Historically monopoly and monopsony have been issues from companies, rather than collections of individual employees, and historical unfairness is the primary driver for laws regulating anticompetitive behavior.

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    There already was an anti-collusion clause in the last CBA. The NBA rarely acted on it, though.
     
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