I don't think we'll drop Brandon Roy

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  1. Blazinaway

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    can't see us using amnesty on Camby when he has only this coming season left
     
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    Camby was injured last season and is better than he showed.
     
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    Howard Beck of the NYT on the Amnesty clause:

     
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    LOL, the Wolves even knew his knees were shit
     
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    Then we can waive him after this season, right?
     
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    But why stunt the growth of the team for yet another year?
     
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    The risk of that happening < (the possible reward of BRoy redefining himself + the risk of him killing us in the playoffs while playing for another team).
     
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    you really believe that? Keeping Roy also costs us from being able to use the full MLE this year and perhaps picking up a solid big like Landry.
     
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    Who cares if he kills us in the playoffs this year? It's not like Portland is some playoff juggernaut anyway. This team has three sets of players. Those who like to, and have the skill set to push the ball (Aldridge, Matthews, Felton, Wallace, Batum, Williams, Smith, Johnson, Babbitt, C. Johnson, Camby, Oden) Those who are good at both (Aldridge, Matthews, Felton, Wallace, Batum, Williams, Smith, Johnson, Babbitt, C. Johnson, Camby, Oden) and those who are like to and have the skill set to walk the ball up the floor and dominate it for 22 seconds on the shot clock (Roy)

    I'd much rather use the dollars available with Roy gone on Landry, Chandler or another big and Crawford
     
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    I'd much rather throw that money at Chuck Hayes.
     
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    I'd be happy with either or both
     
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    Roy has never been a cancer. Whose growth would he stunt? Wes has almost peaked. EWill is a question mark. Armon has no future in the NBA, and Nolan is a rookie who will get Rudy's time most likely. Playing Roy for ~20mpg won't hurt anyone (especially considering we lost one of our other outside threats in Rudy).

    And again, using this clause on Roy won't get us under the cap THIS YEAR. We won't have full MLE regardless.
     
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    No, you are wrong about the full MLE, I am pretty sure waiving Roy gets us that. And if we sign Oden for that 8.8 mil or so Roy then costs the team at least 7-8 mil in Lux tax. It he really worth keepin around?
     
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    Foye sure helped out Minnesota. Roy with two bad knees is still better than Foye has ever been in his career.
     
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    Huh? The Blazers would still be over the cap, and next year Batum will be due a fat contract.
     
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    Hold up.

    If the Blazers waive Roy AND sign Oden, there will be no MLE left (as the MLE will go towards GO's 8.8mil QO). They will have it only if they waive both Roy AND Oden, and that's not happening.

    From various sources:

    Howard Beck:
    storyteller:
    Being the luxury tax actually gives the Blazers a $3mil MLE.
     
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    This is part of a piece from Blazersedge and confirmed by "Storyteller", the essence is waiving Roy does allow us to have a fill MLE this year, I have read that elsewhere as well.

    "Cutting Roy and getting nothing out of him could cost up to $68 million: up to $63 million in Roy's guaranteed future salary plus whatever it costs to bring in a replacement ($5 million per year if the Blazers waived Roy and then used their full Mid-Level to replace him). Even if they used the MLE and re-signed Oden at the Qualifying Offer level, the Blazers would remain below the luxury tax line so tax payments would be avoided entirely.

    If the Blazers retain Roy in 2011-12, they will still be on the hook for his $63 million. If they then gave Oden the Qualifying Offer amount of $8.8 million, they wouldn’t be eligible to use the full $5 million MLE, only the smaller $3 million MLE for taxpayers. Using the MLE available to them and factoring in contracts for Roy and Oden, Portland would likely incur a tax payment of about $13 million."
     
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    I looked again, and I still don't see anywhere I said Foye was better than Roy. I said the Wolves knew his knees were shit.
     
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    If we let Roy go and he signs with another team like Orlando, LA, OKC, or Chicago, I will renounce my Blazers fandom and be glad to cheer him trouncing the Portland Trailblazers every year in the Playoffs.

    Roy is one of the nicest guys in the game but also has the killer instinct seen in HOF guards. And so, when you cross that killer instinct by betraying him, you'll never ever earn his respect again.


    EDIT: I mean, shoot, if you let him go, he doesn't even have to play right now. He could wait until other contending teams are below the cap. You can add New Orleans, NY, Boston, Miami, San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, Minnesota to the list of teams who would want Roy as well.
     
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