Greg Oden Has "No Hard Timeline" For Return

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  1. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Just joking with you Papa.
     
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    Well, let's see:
    Chuck Taylor says that the organization is not at the point where they would say Oden should retire.
    You say you disagree with that statement.
    Seems pretty clear to me.

    Again, you're intermarrying the two separate extension-offer opportunities, and it's not worth it to me to explain it again. Suffice to say that I think you're reading much too much into the non-offer last summer and the QO this summer.

    Well, I said ridiculous, not outrageous, and I would say that suggesting that the team is ready for Oden to retire is pretty ridiculous--as in, an opinion I believe to be worthy of ridicule. If that's not what you intended to say, then it was a pretty poorly worded post, especially for a semantic-nazi such as yourself.
     
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  3. PapaG

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    I wasn't talking about the max extension, though. I was talking about the lack of ANY extension while that was still an option. The Blazers could have offered Oden any contract they wanted during the summer of 2010, which was the fucking point of my post.

    Also, "dunderhead"? Apparently personal attacks are now all good around here.

    (heh heh heh)
     
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    I said I somewhat disagree, and I certainly don't think Greg should retire. I then went on to post that the organization is not certain of Oden's future, however.


    I know the difference. I posted repeatedly about it during the summer of 2010. It seems to be you are "intermarrying" the opportunities for an extension. The Blazers could have at least offered Oden a fair extension prior to missing that deadline that was not a max extension. They did not. That is a fact.


    Ah, this is more like it. We've all been too cordial during the lockout. A 'dunderhead' and a 'nazi', all in one thread.

    Bring on the season! :)
     
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    It was well-documented that there was no way Oden's camp would accept an offer in 2010 which was "fair" (ie, commensurate with what he had displayed). It would have been worse, PR-wise, for him to decline an $8M/year offer than for no offer to be submitted. It was mutually preferred that there was no offer.

    You dislike "semantic-nazi"? Would you prefer "semantic-stylist" instead?
     
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    Yes, that's the spin that the Blazers put out to save face. Meanwhile, other reports say that Oden's camp was upset that no offer was made. We're dealing in spin and opinion now, and not the FACT that no extension was offered.




    Whatever floats your boat and makes you feel tough! :)
     
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    Juwan Howard springs to mind ;)

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    Much like your statement that "once the decision was made to not extend Greg's rookie deal past a Q.O., the Blazers had signaled that they weren't sold on Oden's future as a Blazer."

    Clearly we're only dealing in FACTs here. :)
     
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    The fact was that no offer was made. My opinion was that meant that the Blazers weren't sold on Oden's future as a Blazer. If you disagree, that's fine with me.
     
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    Maybe your opinion's would be taken as that, if you didn't incessantly drive them all home as if they were fact.

    Oden will be Back , and everyone will either be sold or not. IMO until then it's pretty much gossip based speculation to berate the Blazers MGMT like that.
     
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    i know the past year is a rumor filled blur of nothingness, but is this true? are we sure he didnt turn one down?
     
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    many times offers are floated out there non "officially" to gauge a players interest...im sure they could have signed oden on his terms, just like he didnt want to accept a deal on the blazers terms, i mean the outrage here from papag is kinda :lol: but truthfully, im sure there were talks
     
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    I'm not sure anyone is berating Blazer management over this. Does anyone seriously believe they should have given Oden an extension? Can anyone deny that waiting was the sensible choice?
     
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    I guarantee that Oden will be a Blazer for a long time! Book it bitches!
     
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    I had to laugh at this:
    I'm still laughing. :)

    Of the opinions opined, I like this one:
    I'd offer the shortest contract that retains his rights. Hey, it's still Paul Allen's money. :)

    Too bad we didn't already extend Greg. If we had, we could give him and Brandon a one-season tryout, and amnesty the most crippled of the two next off season.
     
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    I hope Oden plays this year...I'm rather curious to see him play. He was really good at Ohio State. :)
     
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    I specifically stated it was my opinion. I don't know how much more clear I can be about it. If others disagree, and that there was some conspiracy to not embarrass Greg or the Blazers in summer 2010, I'm fine with that. I think it's a silly premise, though. ;)
     
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    Who is this Oden guy? lol
     
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