Batum ready to replace Roy at 2 guard

Oden's cap hold doesn't matter much for LT purposes, outside of mini MLE or full MLE. LT is calculated at the end of the season. Right now, with his 8.8 QO and with Brandon, and with estimates for rookies and overseas rights, we are at 80 million. That also includes Patty, Claver and Freeland. LT is roughly 70. Cutting Brandon gets that to 65. Under the LT. Shaving 10 million of luxury tax dollars. But, once the season began, holds for Patty, Claver and Freeland come off, with Oden at his QO, we'd be under 78. Roughly 8 million in LT payments. So cutting Roy saves his 15 salary and 8 in LT. And most we can sign a guy for is 5 million, not a 15m replacement.
Not sure where your figures are from.

 

This cap-hold talk will surely make HCP's head explode.

 

How much higher is the luxury tax # to the salary cap #?

 

It's not like a tax, though.

You're paying him either way, and if you cut him you're not paying any extra $ on him. If you keep him, you are.

One way is less $ than the other. Pretty simple.

 

Forget about the capholds, that only matters if the Blazers were below the soft salary cap line which they won't be this year no matter who's coming back. The only calculation that matters is total salary, how far over the luxury tax they'll be if they keep Roy and how far below they could be if he's off the cap.

 

Right.

Until we can get the new CBA to look at and better info I have been rounding off to appx $10mil lux tax bill to retain Roy.

Keep Roy: $15mil sal, $10mil lux tax
Amnesty Roy: $15mil sal, $0 lux tax, -$1mil offset, $5 MLE replacement player

Just doesn't seem likely the team will save huge money if they wait 1 year.

However, if through the agents back channels, it seems the Blazers can swing a trade for young quality starting caliber player, they should consider cutting Roy now (assuming that is needed to make it all work).

 

I just don't see it like that at all.

 

Hey Mr. Bulls fan, I guarantee you Patty doesn't sign here. He's stuck in China for the year.

 

Nolan Smith but he should already be in your salary sheets.

 

Also, you mentioned Koponen on "cap holds"? I believe the Mavericks own his contract now. FWIW.

 

Anyone understand that clause that said a team had to spend at least 85% of it's cap room? That means if a bunch of your players contracts expire, and they sign with other teams, you're forced to go out and get FAs and potenially way overpay them to get up to 85%?

 

Or just assume contracts in a trade. There are always teams looking to shed players.

 

I wouldn't bother to use hoopsworlds salary info, personally. But they seem to behigher on camby and Wallace than I have seen elsehwere. Also, like mentioned above, you included Koponen, who we no longer have. On top of that, and I could be wrong, but I believe if you waive a player, and he signs elsewhere, the amount of money he signs for can go off of what you owed him. So, when we cut Steve Francis, and he was signed for a million, we saved a million. I believe by signing in LA, we don't have to pay on Gomes anymore, since his salary there offsets what we would have owed him. I could be wrong.
Regardless, I think you're still a bit high on the numbers. And I don't know why you mention replacing him with 15 million worth of players to say 45 million. That makes no sense. One, because we can't, and also because we don't have to. If we replaced him with 30 million dollars worth of players, it'd be 60! But that doesn't matter.

 

shamsports still has Rudy on our roster. No good. S2 says it is from storytellers, but doesn't match up, and also has Rudy on our roster. As well as Pendergraph and Koponen. No good.

And I still don't understand the 15 million dollar player point of your post. To show how much more it would cost? Why? We can't bring in a 15, 20 or 30 million dollar guy to replace him.