<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dmoney0199 @ Jul 10 2006, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>true that would give the hawks 2 SF's back but maybe they can package Smith or Marvin with someone else and maybe get a PG</div> Seems like a pain in the butt to do all that just to get rid of Iverson.
Bad trade for Hawks. Iverson is gonna start decling in next 2 or so years, while Smith, Williams and Harrington have MANY years ahead of them.
true i agree but from what i been hearing on sports radio and shows on in philly, it seems like the sixers really are commited to trading iverson
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jul 10 2006, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I agree with that but I think we should get Harrington instead of Williams then he can play PF for us and Smith would play SF for us. Im thinking we won't resign Slamons to help with the logjam.</div>If Hawks management gives you guys Smith, I might commit suicide..Thats just insane - You guys dont even need Smith he'd just add to your load of highflyers at SF.
yeah kingjames is right the hawks would probaly only trade harrington and williams for AI, i dont know why the hawks would trade josh they could probaly build their team around him
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jul 10 2006, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>this thread didn't need to be locked. If you can't handle threads getting heated, then you shouldn't come here.And taking charges does NOT indicate good defense. That's just sacrificing your body for the sake of the team. It has nothing to do with defensive abilities. And you were the one that says steals has nothing to do with good defense. i have never seen mo pete put all his effort into defense and actually lock someone down. And i've seen him more than once. He and Joey Graham collectively gave up 81 points from one player. And it's not like Kobe was just hurling things in, he was burning the defense.</div>Except thats the thing. Sam had Joey Graham and Matt Bonner guarding Kobe, not Mo..Believe me, im serious. Matt Bonner was on him more then half the game, also Joey Graham was guarding him.Anyway, I g2g to baseball practice now. It is rediculous that you think he is a bad defender. He puts all his effort into playing baseball. It's even more funny that you say offense is his priority. That is complete nonsense. You have no idea what your talking about..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (coyn3burglar @ Jul 10 2006, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would rather have Marvin, I think he's gonna be real good in the future</div>As of right now I think JSmooth might be better..He's showing me more, but then again Marvin is just a rook, next season should say alot though..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 10 2006, 01:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Except thats the thing. Sam had Joey Graham and Matt Bonner guarding Kobe, not Mo..Believe me, im serious. Matt Bonner was on him more then half the game, also Joey Graham was guarding him.Anyway, I g2g to baseball practice now. It is rediculous that you think he is a bad defender. He puts all his effort into playing baseball. It's even more funny that you say offense is his priority. That is complete nonsense. You have no idea what your talking about..</div>Thats right. He puts all his effort into baseball,like you said. Not playing defense in basketball.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 10 2006, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Except thats the thing. Sam had Joey Graham and Matt Bonner guarding Kobe, not Mo..Believe me, im serious. Matt Bonner was on him more then half the game, also Joey Graham was guarding him.Anyway, I g2g to baseball practice now. It is rediculous that you think he is a bad defender. He puts all his effort into playing baseball. It's even more funny that you say offense is his priority. That is complete nonsense. You have no idea what your talking about..</div>Bonner played 25 minutes in that game. Kobe played for about 42 minutes of the 48. Someone else was guarding him while Bonner was sitting on the bench. That guy would be Mo Pete.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jul 10 2006, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If Hawks management gives you guys Smith, I might commit suicide..Thats just insane - You guys dont even need Smith he'd just add to your load of highflyers at SF.</div>It won't be to bad for us if we don't resign Salmons which I have a feeling is what we'll do. If not then I don't want Smith unless we trade a wing player. I also kind of think we should trade KK.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jul 10 2006, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It won't be to bad for us if we don't resign Salmons which I have a feeling is what we'll do. If not then I don't want Smith unless we trade a wing player. I also kind of think we should trade KK.</div>I agree that Korver could be useful somewhere else..You could trade him for Brevin Knight..He's true PG and could fill that hole at PG for you. Charlotte could use another good shooter on there team, since they really lack offense..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jul 10 2006, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I agree that Korver could be useful somewhere else..You could trade him for Brevin Knight..He's true PG and could fill that hole at PG for you. Charlotte could use another good shooter on there team, since they really lack offense..</div>Yeah but that would give them more of a logjam at the wing positions. Hell if theyw ould be dumb enough to make that trade I would do it in a heartbeat. i would love to see Knight in Philly.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 10 2006, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Except thats the thing. Sam had Joey Graham and Matt Bonner guarding Kobe, not Mo..Believe me, im serious. Matt Bonner was on him more then half the game, also Joey Graham was guarding him.Anyway, I g2g to baseball practice now. It is rediculous that you think he is a bad defender. He puts all his effort into playing baseball. It's even more funny that you say offense is his priority. That is complete nonsense. You have no idea what your talking about..</div>I watched that game, and Mo Pete and Joey Graham were on him the majority of the time. I might have seen Bonner guard him only a few times. I watched quarters 2-4. So offense isn't his priority? you're saying he's in this league bc of his defense? don't give me that bullsh**.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jul 10 2006, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bonner played 25 minutes in that game. Kobe played for about 42 minutes of the 48. Someone else was guarding him while Bonner was sitting on the bench. That guy would be Mo Pete.</div>That guy would be Joey Graham actually. Im the one who watched the game, and Sam put Joey and Matt on him for most of the game. Mo Pete was on him for a bit, but not that long.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jul 10 2006, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I watched that game, and Mo Pete and Joey Graham were on him the majority of the time. I might have seen Bonner guard him only a few times. I watched quarters 2-4. So offense isn't his priority? you're saying he's in this league bc of his defense? don't give me that bullsh**.</div>He plays on both ends. You have no idea what you're talking about, so just STFU. Actually I saw the whole game, and Matt played on Kobe alot.
that's like the 10 millionth time you've told me to "STFU". hahaYes, i have an idea of what i'm talking about. Offense is his priority. He may be a decent defender, but he is far from "very good".
Haha, first you said he was a very bad defender, now you say he's decent. Make up your mind. Very good may have been a bit too much, but he is an above average defender.
He's above average in this league. Im a Raptors fan. I would know. He tries very hard on defense, and he does a great job.