<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Mercury News - The Golden State Warriors appear to be close to acquiring forward Al Harrington in a sign and trade, the Mercury News is reporting.</div> LINKWell..I like this more than the AI deal..Although we gain another fu*kin forward..I'd rather get O'Bryant and like..Monta Ellis instead of Murphy..
Wow, i like this for the Hawks. I mean, they could've lost Harrington for nothing or close to it, but instead they are getting a 15/10 guy to fill the gap. and if they can get Murphy AND pietrus? I think they win this deal.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jul 9 2006, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LINKWell..I like this more than the AI deal..Although we gain another fu*kin forward..I'd rather get O'Bryant and like..Monta Ellis instead of Murphy..</div>WTF is wrong with AI LOL Seems like a alright player to me And yea ATL will actually get something for Al instead of just have him go getting nothing back so this is great for ATL.And I guess AI won't be going to ATL now? lol So I am extra happy I would hate to see AI go from our sucky Sixers to a team that won't win a title soon also.
You're underrating Murphy kingjamez. He is a good rebounder, and he can shoot the ball and he can also drive in too and get himself a better shot. He averages 15/10. He is a good player. Al will leave anyway, so you might as well pull the trigger on this trade.I could see the Warriors making the playoffs with that roster..Ike is probably ready to start, and if O'Bryant doesnt do a good job, they still have Biedrins and Foyle to help him out..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 10 2006, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're underrating Murphy kingjamez. He is a good rebounder, and he can shoot the ball and he can also drive in too and get himself a better shot. He averages 15/10. He is a good player. Al will leave anyway, so you might as well pull the trigger on this trade.I could see the Warriors making the playoffs with that roster..Ike is probably ready to start, and if O'Bryant doesnt do a good job, they still have Biedrins and Foyle to help him out..</div> If you watched Troy Murphy this year (doubt it) you would see that he hurts his team more than he helps. He's a good rebounder but he's bound to get a lot of rebounds playing with Adonal Foyle. For a 6'11" PF he is a pitifull shotblocker, I think Bobby Simmons is a better shotblocker than Murphy. On offense he turns from a 6'11" PF into a 6'6" SG jacking up perimeter shots. He can hurt you sometimes but a majority of the time he shoots terrible percentages. They need to start Diogu this year. Murphy just doesn't do it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jul 10 2006, 01:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If you watched Troy Murphy this year (doubt it) you would see that he hurts his team more than he helps. He's a good rebounder but he's bound to get a lot of rebounds playing with Adonal Foyle. For a 6'11" PF he is a pitifull shotblocker, I think Bobby Simmons is a better shotblocker than Murphy. On offense he turns from a 6'11" PF into a 6'6" SG jacking up perimeter shots. He can hurt you sometimes but a majority of the time he shoots terrible percentages. They need to start Diogu this year. Murphy just doesn't do it.</div>So what? You like Memo right? They play similar games. Both shoot from the perimeter and occasionally post up. He gets rebounds and scores 15 ppg. Memo Okur doesnt shoot much better then him so I dont see your problem.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 10 2006, 04:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So what? You like Memo right? They play similar games. Both shoot from the perimeter and occasionally post up. He gets rebounds and scores 15 ppg. Memo Okur doesnt shoot much better then him so I dont see your problem.</div> Ok...I prove some of your points wrong and you bring up Mehmet Okur.
Yes I do, because you are being hypocritical. You first said that you had a man crush with Mehmet Okur. And now your saying Troy Murphy sucks, when they play pretty much the exact same games.
I'm actually going to agree with cb4 on this one. Troy Murphy doesn't hurt his team at all. I've seen him play a few times, and he's a good rebounder who can hit the outside shot. He even plays decent inside. He doesn't hurt his team at all.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 10 2006, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes I do, because you are being hypocritical. You first said that you had a man crush with Mehmet Okur. And now your saying Troy Murphy sucks, when they play pretty much the exact same games.</div> That debate was over the top 10 centers in the league and people didn't even have Mehmet Okur in the top 8 and in some cases the top 10 when he averaged 18/9 a game and for much of the year 20/9 a game. I was calling it ludacris to not have him as a top 5 center in the NBA. If Troy Murphy was a 20 a game as a center I would give him the credit he deserves as a top 10 center...but this is a different argument....Troy Murphy is very replaceable and Diogu should start...14/10 is not hard to replace.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jul 10 2006, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm actually going to agree with cb4 on this one. Troy Murphy doesn't hurt his team at all. I've seen him play a few times, and he's a good rebounder who can hit the outside shot. He even plays decent inside. He doesn't hurt his team at all.</div>Your going to get alot of rebounds, when nobody else on your team can rebound for sh*t.. :happy0144:
okay, first of all, it's ludicrous, not ludacris. We're not talking about rappers here.Secondly, i hate the fact that you bring up the fact that he only gets rebounds bc he has no other rebounders on his team. That's BS. He still has to get rebounds over the other team's players. And just bc he's not a good shotblocker doesn't mean he hurts the team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jul 10 2006, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That debate was over the top 10 centers in the league and people didn't even have Mehmet Okur in the top 8 and in some cases the top 10 when he averaged 18/9 a game and for much of the year 20/9 a game. I was calling it ludacris to not have him as a top 5 center in the NBA. If Troy Murphy was a 20 a game as a center I would give him the credit he deserves as a top 10 center...but this is a different argument....Troy Murphy is very replaceable and Diogu should start...14/10 is not hard to replace.</div>Yeah, and guess what. You put Memo at the 3 spot before Marcus Camby and other guys that play physically inside. I mean come on, if thats not dick riding, I dont know what is...Memo was 18 a game, not 20. He plays almost exactly like Memo, and you were saying he was hurting his team. Thats what I called you out for.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jul 10 2006, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>okay, first of all, it's ludicrous, not ludacris. We're not talking about rappers here.Secondly, i hate the fact that you bring up the fact that he only gets rebounds bc he has no other rebounders on his team. That's BS. He still has to get rebounds over the other team's players. And just bc he's not a good shotblocker doesn't mean he hurts the team.</div>He's a decent player, with decent rebounding ability, and he's a decent 3 point shooter. I cant comment on his inside game, I've never seen him go inside..He's nothing more than a decent role player..I'd be happy to get Pietrus and O'Bryant..Or Ellis and O'Bryant..I'm very high on both players..
Troy Murphy wasnt the player they wanted they wanted a back to the basket type player. like Ike. but i dont kno if Harrington is the answer.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jul 10 2006, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>okay, first of all, it's ludicrous, not ludacris. We're not talking about rappers here.Secondly, i hate the fact that you bring up the fact that he only gets rebounds bc he has no other rebounders on his team. That's BS. He still has to get rebounds over the other team's players. And just bc he's not a good shotblocker doesn't mean he hurts the team.</div> He's a good rebounder but other than that he just isn't that good. He went from a good strong post guy 2 years ago and now all he does is shoot/play from the perimeter and he isn't a good shooter. That won't help the Warriors go anywhere.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jul 10 2006, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's a good rebounder but other than that he just isn't that good. He went from a good strong post guy 2 years ago and now all he does is shoot/play from the perimeter and he isn't a good shooter. That won't help the Warriors go anywhere.</div>He has good range too, and can score 15 points on any given night. You are saying that is a weakness. Range, rebounding, and scoring are 3 very valuable assets for a PF. Also, yes, he can still play in the post, and his post game is pretty polished. He doesnt get the ball too much because he has J Rich, Baron Davis, Ike, Dunleavy, he had Fisher, and Pietrus, and others. When you look at the Jazz last year they had...AK 47, yeah, and Memo. No one really else....No one really else established themself as a 12+ ppg guy really, because Carlos Boozer was "injured" for most of the year. Memo had alot more touches then Troy. Let's get that outta the way. He is a good shooter. For a PF he is a great shooter. He has range and that is very valuable for a big man. Most big men cant shoot past 12 or 15 feet.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jul 10 2006, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's a decent player, with decent rebounding ability, and he's a decent 3 point shooter. I cant comment on his inside game, I've never seen him go inside..He's nothing more than a decent role player..I'd be happy to get Pietrus and O'Bryant..Or Ellis and O'Bryant..I'm very high on both players..</div>He has a good inside game when he chooses to. He has pretty polished post moves, and used to be a damn good inside player. If you've never seen him go inside, you have obviously never seen a Warriors game.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 10 2006, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He has good range too, and can score 15 points on any given night. You are saying that is a weakness. Range, rebounding, and scoring are 3 very valuable assets for a PF. Also, yes, he can still play in the post, and his post game is pretty polished. He doesnt get the ball too much because he has J Rich, Baron Davis, Ike, Dunleavy, he had Fisher, and Pietrus, and others. When you look at the Jazz last year they had...AK 47, yeah, and Memo. No one really else....No one really else established themself as a 12+ ppg guy really, because Carlos Boozer was "injured" for most of the year. Memo had alot more touches then Troy. Let's get that outta the way. He is a good shooter. For a PF he is a great shooter. He has range and that is very valuable for a big man. Most big men cant shoot past 12 or 15 feet.He has a good inside game when he chooses to. He has pretty polished post moves, and used to be a damn good inside player. If you've never seen him go inside, you have obviously never seen a Warriors game.</div>Oh yeah, like Ike, Fish, Pietrus are all huge offensive players for the sorry Warriors..
