<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 9 2006, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, but Kobe has control of the ball all the time, so its easier for him to get assists. Jason Kidd is the ball handler in NJ, so Vince doesnt get the ball as much as guys like Mac, Kobe and even Lebron. Vicne is a good passer though.</div>Ya your exactly right, as others have said Tmac brings the ball up alot of the time and Kobe touches the ball ALL the time thats why hes a ball hogg.. look at shot attempts.. and if you watch vince passes it alot more that you think he is just jacking up shots everytime he touches it.. or taking off balanced shots (TMac) Plus they people who "take Mcgrady injured" :no1: real haters, those are the people dont even give carter a chance... you wanna see a show off? Kobe, LeBron, Wade, and just about every acrobatic, star player is one watch basketball not the media :dribble:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jul 9 2006, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I never said he was ALOT more selfish than T-mac. I just said that he is selfish and he is. And IMO, even if Tracy is selfish, it doenst hurt him because he is just that talented. He can do everything. And if you think Tracy is better, why are you even responding to my posts?</div>o ya its fine to be selfish if your tmac, he is just soo good, and not vince the loser ball hogg :happy0144: there ya go i completed your sentenceoverall i think there pretty even ask Tracy he left the team because he couldnt handle vince being better and sharing spotlight... talk about selfish
when tmac is healthy hes a montser he won a scoring title once i think in 02-03 tmac has better D,better jump shot. VC can drive better, and finish better
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vcfan15 @ Jul 14 2006, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ya your exactly right, as others have said Tmac brings the ball up alot of the time and Kobe touches the ball ALL the time thats why hes a ball hogg.. look at shot attempts.. and if you watch vince passes it alot more that you think he is just jacking up shots everytime he touches it.. or taking off balanced shots (TMac) Plus they people who "take Mcgrady injured" :no1: real haters, those are the people dont even give carter a chance... you wanna see a show off? Kobe, LeBron, Wade, and just about every acrobatic, star player is one watch basketball not the media :dribble ya its fine to be selfish if your tmac, he is just soo good, and not vince the loser ball hogg :happy0144: there ya go i completed your sentenceoverall i think there pretty even ask Tracy he left the team because he couldnt handle vince being better and sharing spotlight... talk about selfish</div>Come on now. He didn't want to be in Vince's shadow. Doesn't mean he couldn't handle it. If you knew anything about Mac you would know what happened. At the time his coach labeled him as a bust and said to him "You won't last 3 years in the league" And I remember he did a windmill dunk before when he was a rook and he was told he was showboating. The coach didn't encourage him at all. Well...Who cares...Look at him now. TMac>Vince.He'll be back next year. Watch.
VC because when he is on, he is unstoppable by any force of naturewhen Tmac is on, he isnt as dominant as vince is.When VC is on, he can shoot from the other basket and make it in.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lior The Laker Fan @ Jul 16 2006, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Vc is much more talented and agressive..</div>Mind telling me how especially if your gonna say something liek that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NJFantastic4 @ Jul 16 2006, 06:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>VC because when he is on, he is unstoppable by any force of naturewhen Tmac is on, he isnt as dominant as vince is.When VC is on, he can shoot from the other basket and make it in.</div>He isn't as dominant? :HAHAHA: Wow. Watch TMac for once.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NJFantastic4 @ Jul 16 2006, 07:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>VC because when he is on, he is unstoppable by any force of naturewhen Tmac is on, he isnt as dominant as vince is.When VC is on, he can shoot from the other basket and make it in.</div>T-Mac has had a 60 point game before and has had scoring title twice in a row. VC has neither. When was the last time you saw VC score 13pts in 32 seconds to win game against best defensive team in league? Never.Get out of here.
def vince desmonds a year younger but hes coming off a bad year but hes a better defender also a poor rebounder the last three years and vince brings more people to the arenavince if tmacs back is as bad as they think it is.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (theaftermath770 @ Jul 16 2006, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>def vince desmonds a year younger but hes coming off a bad year but hes a better defender also a poor rebounder the last three years and vince brings more people to the arenavince if tmacs back is as bad as they think it is.</div>This is between T-Mac and Vince. Also what does bringing fans to an arena have to do w/ being a better player?
WOW! Vince the better defender?Dont even post here anymore if you are going to say something stupid like that. Everyone knows that Tmac is the better defender here..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NJFantastic4 @ Jul 16 2006, 06:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>VC because when he is on, he is unstoppable by any force of naturewhen Tmac is on, he isnt as dominant as vince is.When VC is on, he can shoot from the other basket and make it in.</div>When Tmac is on, he isnt as dominant as vince? I cant u even let that idea run through ur brain. When Tmac is on he is on. When he has a bad night he can get it going. Vince is good but he isnt UNSTOPPABLE. Tmac is better
When T-Mac is healthy, they are both even since they both score good points, share the ball, rebound decently, but VC has a tendency to throw up 2 many unnecessary shots which T-Mac doesn't do as much.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sham @ Jul 26 2006, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When T-Mac is healthy, they are both even since they both score good points, share the ball, rebound decently, but VC has a tendency to throw up 2 many unnecessary shots which T-Mac doesn't do as much.</div>I like wat u said. I think T-mac is better because this year he had the same type of numbers as Vinsanity. Overall T-mac is better instead of creativity in dunks
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sham @ Jul 26 2006, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When T-Mac is healthy, they are both even since they both score good points, share the ball, rebound decently, but VC has a tendency to throw up 2 many unnecessary shots which T-Mac doesn't do as much.</div>If TMac is healthy TMac is better then Vince. He can do everything better(cept for dunks.)
Had VC made that 3 pointer against the sixers we would've seen him in a different light.Onto the comparision, easily tmac. He does literally everything better than him besides dunking.
Tracy McGrady has a better normal shot, jumpshot and he can drive to the bucket as good as VC. He's not as good a dunker but he is a great dunker. He is as explosive as VC is. He's the better rebounder, and defender. He's tougher, and a better leader. Both get injured too much though.Vince is a good shooter, but when you look at T-Mac from a standpoint, you see a versatile, explosive scorer, and when you see VC you see a one-dimensional, explosive dunker.
I think they are almost exactly alike except VC throws up waaay too many 3's for my liking (maybe it was just in the 10-15 games i saw this year...but it was still alot)Both amazing though
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dsounG @ Jul 27 2006, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^^Explain to me how they are "exactly alike"Everything McGrady does is better.</div>I think that he is saying that their games are just similar.....even though I dont really agree that much.
