How is Giv. Kitzhaber working out?

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  1. BrianFromWA

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    they will send the flower of America's youth overseas to third world countries to die, but death row inmates deserve to live the rest of their natural lives in relative comfort on the taxpayers' dime "reflecting on what they've done."

    good to know priorities are in order
     
  2. julius

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    Oh you mean where most people live? And how the popular vote wins?

    damn Portland. They're cheating!
     
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    Who is 'they' in 'they will send...'? Kitzhaber?

    barfo
     
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    Call me a bleeding heart but I believe everyone has a purpose on this earth. And that even if they don't have a transformation or epiphany until their death bed it's worth keeping their soul around till they do. Call me a Budist.

    Of-course they Doctors can't do much for people in that rechid system. I think it's the asylums fault prisoners aren't reflecting and being reformed, not the doctors.
     
  5. BrianFromWA

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    no. I was responding indirectly to "bleeding heart liberals" who are staunch pro-choicers, staunch anti-death-penalty, but vote to send people off to war
     
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    I'm not sure that true bleeding heart liberals would vote to send people off to war.
     
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    Congressman Barbara Lee from CA was the only member of Congress to vote against the Afghanistan war (a.k.a. "Sending our troops off to war"). I believe that there is more than one other member of Congress against the death penalty and pro-choice
     
  8. julius

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    Hello Mr False Dichotomy, it's been a while. Nice seeing you again.
     
  9. BrianFromWA

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    I'm not ashamed to say I'm too dumb to understand what you just said.

    I thought my train of thought was pretty clear. Barfo asked if I was talking about Kitzhaber, and I said no.
    Barfo then said that he wasn't sure that true bleeding heart liberals would send people to war. I took that to mean that he didn't have a problem with the other characterizations.
    I then showed how every single member of Congress (save Congressman Lee) voted to send people to Afghanistan. Ergo, there are either no bleeding heart liberals in Congress, or barfo can now be sure that they would send people to war.

    What exactly did I miss?
     
  10. MARIS61

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    Never mind the improbability of Haugen being given the opportunity to kill on Death Row, he's pleased with the ruling anyway.

    Apparently the POS fancies himself a courageous activist.

    Gov. John Kitzhaber's moratorium on executions while he remains in office triggered an outpouring of support and condemnation Wednesday, but his decision won approval from an unexpected source: death row inmate Gary Haugen, whose request to die spurred the intervention.

    The twice-convicted killer praised Kitzhaber for calling attention to problems with the death penalty system. Haugen noted Kitzhaber's criticisms of the death penalty's costs and uneven application in Oregon are the same issues he has repeatedly raised in court appearances and letters.

    "Now the system's going to get looked at," Haugen said in a phone interview, hailing the move as a victory.

    The news was especially satisfying, he said, after months of detractors challenging his mental competence. "Imagine what people – intelligent and professional people – who are really trying to make a difference can do," he said with some sarcasm.

    Haugen, 49, said he's unsure what his next legal step will be. But he said if nothing changes by the time Kitzhaber leaves office, he may once again seek to be executed.

    "I was and am willing to die for my beliefs," he said.


    http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...f/2011/11/death_row_inmate_gary_haugen_h.html
     
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    Well, it's a fact there are no bleeding heart liberals in Congress. I think that's where things went off track.
     
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    I don't know...I think Rep. Lee qualifies as a bleeding heart.
     
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    Now I remember why I stopped reading the OT forums.
     
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    I would imagine people are against the death penalty because we keep seeing an increasing number of cases where innocent men and women have been convicted for crimes they didn't commit. You can remove a person from jail after a wrongful conviction, but since I'm pretty sure none of you are God (though you do enjoy trying to play it on a message board and in regards to other peoples' rights) sadly we cannot resurrect the wrongfully convicted who have been executed.
     
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    Haugen admits to his killing of both people, and witnesses and DNA tie him to the scene of both crimes. What is the point of your post?
     
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    Yep. Since Kitzhaber was the thread topic.

    Nope. That was julius.

    I dunno what I can be sure of, other than you are making a silly point. Why is it relevant which congresspeople voted to punish the Taliban, when we are talking about Kitzhaber's view on the death penalty? Seems like you are working awfully hard to change the subject here (which is understandable, I guess, since he's not your governor).

    The topic, and a post attribution.

    barfo
     
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    The point would be that Haugen is not the only guy on death row.

    barfo
     
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    Linky.

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