I will say the Raptors have a decent shot at making the playoffs this year. Why? Because the East ain't that good when it comes down to the 5-8 teams. Also, with the offseason already this year, it seems most of the East players are going West, while East teams are trading amongst themselves. So there's a good chance Raptors can sneak in a playoff berth. Will they? I wouldn't put any wager on it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 12 2006, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What about the Sonics? They made the 2nd round 2 years ago when they were almost the worst defensive team in basketball. If they can do it, we can do it. You dont exactly need defense to win games if you can score more points then your oppenent.</div>The Raptors don't have an offense any where near that either. They'll be back in the high lottery once again.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jul 12 2006, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dude you rely on assuming things too much. I mean this is all I read in that post. Assumptions. "Well BC will probably add some good defensive role players in the offseason." "Well if the Sonics can make the playoffs with no defense so can my team." "Mo will have an 18 ppg season, TJ will have 13 or 14 ppg this season and Bargnani and Grahm will be good for around 12 ppg." See all your doing is assuming things. Get some real reasons and maybe I'll agree with you a little but if you keep just giving assumptions no one will listen to you. Figure it out. Youyr team is too young and has horrible defense which is half of the game. Your forgetting the Sonics did have atleast veteran leadership something you guys lack. That was a big part of it.</div>No duh. When you have alot of cap room, and the best GM in the League, then I'm going to assume that he is going to sign some players.These are my reasons: Best GM in the League, Chris Bosh, Joey Graham, Andrea Bargnani, TJ Ford, Mo Pete, 2007 draft pick and cap space. There you go. If that doesnt spell a good future team, I dont know what does.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Road Blocker @ Jul 12 2006, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Raptors don't have an offense any where near that either. They'll be back in the high lottery once again.</div>The Raptors have one of the best offenses in the League, and it will only improver as the young guys get more experienced and when we sign some talented free agents..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 12 2006, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No duh. When you have alot of cap room, and the best GM in the League, then I'm going to assume that he is going to sign some players.These are my reasons: Best GM in the League, Chris Bosh, Joey Graham, Andrea Bargnani, TJ Ford, Mo Pete, 2007 draft pick and cap space. There you go. If that doesnt spell a good future team, I dont know what does.The Raptors have one of the best offenses in the League, and it will only improver as the young guys get more experienced and when we sign some talented free agents..</div>The key word there is future. We are debating next season here. They are still too young and horrible defensively. A lot of these players you are mentioning haven't even prooven themselves in the league yet like Graham and Bargnani. Plus its not like the FA market is filled w/ defensive players to sign. There's a few but if I'm correct the Raptors haven't been in the talks of signing any of them.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Raptors have one of the best offenses in the League, and it will only improver as the young guys get more experienced and when we sign some talented free agents..</div> How do you know this, you haven't even seen the team in action to access they have one of the best offenses in the league.
Theyve scored 100 points a game in 2 years straight. We've basically lost Charlie V, Mike James and Matt Bonner from last year and got TJ Ford, Bargnani, Rasho, Anthony Parker and an older Joey Graham and Chris Bosh. And the FA period hasnt even started yet so there are probably still more offensive weapons to come..This pretty much guarentees that we will still have a good offense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 12 2006, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Theyve scored 100 points a game in 2 years straight. We've basically lost Charlie V, Mike James and Matt Bonner from last year and got TJ Ford, Bargnani, Rasho, Anthony Parker and an older Joey Graham and Chris Bosh. And the FA period hasnt even started yet so there are probably still more offensive weapons to come..This pretty much guarentees that we will still have a good offense.</div>So now your assuming BC will both get a lot of good defensive prospects and offensive prospects??? Your starting to make this guy look like a miracle worker.
Almost every good FA has been signed already...Bryan Colangelo is a good GM but calling him the league's best is ridiculous.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jul 12 2006, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So now your assuming BC will both get a lot of good defensive prospects and offensive prospects??? Your starting to make this guy look like a miracle worker.</div> 'Well he's the best GM in the league and we have cap space...blah blah blah'
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>We've basically lost Charlie V, Mike James and Matt Bonner from last year and got TJ Ford, Bargnani, Rasho, Anthony Parker and an older Joey Graham and Chris Bosh. And the FA period hasnt even started yet so there are probably still more offensive weapons to come..</div> Guys like Ford, Rasho don't really look to score a lot compared to Villanueva and Mike James. Also, the free agency period has started, it started on July 1 when you can start talking to free agent and agreeing to terms. That's why most of the top free agents are gone and as of right now, terms can be signed and be official. As today is the official day you can sign. Looking at the rest of the free agency list, what are you expecting with the free agents left? Their not that good, all of them are mediocre at best. Please give me some names. Instead of just throwing out there we will sign other free agents. Let's face it, the good ones are gone.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 12 2006, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Theyve scored 100 points a game in 2 years straight. We've basically lost Charlie V, Mike James and Matt Bonner from last year and got TJ Ford, Bargnani, Rasho, Anthony Parker and an older Joey Graham and Chris Bosh. And the FA period hasnt even started yet so there are probably still more offensive weapons to come..This pretty much guarentees that we will still have a good offense.</div>LOL Woah..You got Rasho, and Anthony Parker! That'll sure guarentee a better offense..
I'm guessing Ford will score as much as Villanueva did in his rookie year. Andrea, Rasho, Parker will make up for Mike James. And the improvements in Joey and Chris will make up for the loss of Matt Bonner. Also, there are still some good FA's out there like Stephenson, Fred Jones, Trevor Ariza, Flip Murray...etc..Guys, I wasnt saying that BC would solve all our problems this year, but in FA years when there is much more talent there, I think it is entirely possible that BC will sign us a good defensive player and also more offensive help. You act like he's as motionless as Rob Babcock. He is a pro-active GM, and he is going to do something about our team, and try to make it one of the bests in the east.As for making the playoffs next year, I think we will be in the race, but we will not get the 8th seed. I think we will finish 3rd in the division instead of 4th this year though..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 12 2006, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm guessing Ford will score as much as Villanueva did in his rookie year. Andrea, Rasho, Parker will make up for Mike James. And the improvements in Joey and Chris will make up for the loss of Matt Bonner. Also, there are still some good FA's out there like Stephenson, Fred Jones, Trevor Ariza, Flip Murray...etc..</div> Trevor Ariza...now there's a guy that will turn a franchise around. CB4, why and the hell did you think FA didn't start yet? What and the hell did you think all these FA's have been doing for the last 2 weeks?<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Guys, I wasnt saying that BC would solve all our problems this year, but in FA years when there is much more talent there, I think it is entirely possible that BC will sign us a good defensive player and also more offensive help. You act like he's as motionless as Rob Babcock. He is a pro-active GM, and he is going to do something about our team, and try to make it one of the bests in the east.</div> So are most GM's in the NBA.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 12 2006, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm guessing Ford will score as much as Villanueva did in his rookie year. Andrea, Rasho, Parker will make up for Mike James. And the improvements in Joey and Chris will make up for the loss of Matt Bonner. Also, there are still some good FA's out there like Stephenson, Fred Jones, Trevor Ariza, Flip Murray...etc..Guys, I wasnt saying that BC would solve all our problems this year, but in FA years when there is much more talent there, I think it is entirely possible that BC will sign us a good defensive player and also more offensive help. You act like he's as motionless as Rob Babcock. He is a pro-active GM, and he is going to do something about our team, and try to make it one of the bests in the east.As for making the playoffs next year, I think we will be in the race, but we will not get the 8th seed. I think we will finish 3rd in the division instead of 4th this year though..</div>DeShawn Stevenson will not solve your offensive problems. Nobody out there will solve your problems. Peja was really the only great scorer out there that would've made a big impact on offense. Your savior BC didnt want him obviously. But I guess we'll see the revamped Raps lineup with Anthony Parker and Rasho fares against everyone else..You don't even know Anthony Parker will be anything in the NBA, and he's 31. If I had to grade the Raps offseason I'd give them a B-. Bargnani was the only decent pickup they've had this offseason..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jul 12 2006, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>DeShawn Stevenson will not solve your offensive problems. Nobody out there will solve your problems. Peja was really the only great scorer out there that would've made a big impact on offense. Your savior BC didnt want him obviously. But I guess we'll see the revamped Raps lineup with Anthony Parker and Rasho fares against everyone else..You don't even know Anthony Parker will be anything in the NBA, and he's 31. If I had to grade the Raps offseason I'd give them a B-. Bargnani was the only decent pickup they've had this offseason..</div>Offensive problems? :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA:OMG, stupidest quote of the week. Dude, we were 2nd in the League in scoring, and just got a better pg to help run our offense, and a better Joey Graham and Chris Bosh and also Mo Pete chipping in with 16 or so. Then if we sign Stephenson, thats like 8-12 off the bench Offensive problems? It is not offense we have trouble with.. Why the F*ck would we want Peja? We are already one of the best shooting teams in the League. We dont need a guy jacking shots when we have Chris Bosh, Morris Peterson, TJ Ford, Andrea Bargnani and Joey Graham to score our points already..Of course BC didnt want him. You dont think TJ Ford was a decent pickup? Are you out of you rmind? You are so damn ignorant towards the Raptors. When you talk, sh*t comes out of your mouth.
honestly I gotta agree there. KingJamez what were you thinking when you said they have offensive problems. This is a good offensive team. Its the defense that is horrible for the Raps. Plus TJ Ford was a really good pickup for Toronto.
I worded that wrong, I meant to say Morris Peterson, Chris Bosh, and Matt Bonner is not a strong scoring offense, losing CV31 and Mike James took a hit to your offense. 2 of your top 4 scorers are GONE! You brought in Anthony Parker and Rasho. WOOOOO Sorry but your offense just took a big hit..TJ Ford isnt Mike James! He isnt a combo-guard scorer. He'll get what? 12-13 ppg?..He'll just be the true PG you were looking for.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jul 12 2006, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I worded that wrong, I meant to say Morris Peterson, Chris Bosh, and Matt Bonner is not a strong offense, losing CV31 and Mike James took a hit to your offense. 2 of your top 4 scorers are GONE! You brought in Anthony Parker and Rasho. WOOOOO Sorry but your offense just took a big hit..TJ Ford isnt Mike James! He isnt a combo-guard scorer. He'll get what? 12-13 ppg?..He'll just be the true PG you were looking for.</div>Dude, TJ Ford scores just as much as Charlie did in his rookie year. Andrea Bargnani, Rasho and Anthony Parker will equal the 20 ppg that James left. And James was a ball hog when he got that, so that means we get a better pg to run our offense, and no ball hogging anymore, which means more touches for our other guys. Chris Bosh will score more, so will Joey Graham. And I guarentee we are not done yet in the FA Market. If anything, that makes our offense even better then it was last year.Sorry, your not going to get yourself out of that one..
That was ignorant. Who wouldn't? Toronto is one of the most beautiful cities in the world. All the Raptors players say they love the city of Toronto. Also, players will see that we have a future and will likely want to be a part of it.And BCB, there are still a few good wings left. Fred Jones, Stephenson, Ariza and Flip Murray, just off the top of my head..Good to know I finally silenced Kingjamez...
