Twitter rumor - Blazers to deal F Gerald Wallace for picks

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  1. Brock

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    A negotiating posture, I bet RT @WojYahooNBA: Portland believes Wallace has evolved into Blazer "heart and soul" and hesitant to move him.
     
    Brock, Dec 14, 2011
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    I see how this could benefit Portland in the future, and I see how this could be the right move to make if we can combine the assets from trading Wallace for a true superstar.

    However, my concerns are:

    - I love watching Wallace play and was really looking forward to watching him play for Portland for at least this year.

    - The probability of drafting a player in the middle or bottom of the draft that will be better than Wallace is low.

    - The probability of getting a superstar to Portland through free agency is low.
     
    blazerboy30, Dec 14, 2011
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    You're forgetting a couple of things:

    "The probability of drafting a player in the middle or bottom of the draft that will be better for us for the next 4 years at ~5M total salary than potentially 2 years of Crash on the downside of his prime for 19M while blocking Batum from getting heavy minutes" is pretty high.
     
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    And "the probability of getting a superstar to Portland IS Low." The "probability of getting a superstar OR TWO to Portland to pair with LMA, Batum, Maybe Oden and 3-4 first round picks (or whatever we can turn those picks into)" is pretty decent.
     
    BrianFromWA, Dec 14, 2011
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Boom
     
    Nikolokolus, Dec 14, 2011
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    If they can do this, or have the abillity to get a superstar in return; then maybe the firing of Cho wasn't too bad. This smells so much like Whitsett it's not even funny.
     
    magnifier661, Dec 14, 2011
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    How do you figure, Brian?
     
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    I disagree with the bold part. It isn't like Wallace is 40. He's 29.

    The rest of your statement has nothing to do with the probability of drafting well. That goes to my other point of the low probability of getting a superstar here with our extra cash.
     
    blazerboy30, Dec 14, 2011
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    Because he doesnt want to come here. Dude wants a bigger market. So we trade for him, he opts out at years end and leaves. We are not getting cp3. Felton, camby, two firsts is nowhere near what the clippers were offering
     
    JFizzleRaider, Dec 14, 2011
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    Where is he going to go JFizzle? What "Big Market" team has enough cap space to grab him?

    And the Clippers nixed the deal because of the amount NO wanted BTW...
     
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    Yeah, and even without gordon the deal the clips offered was way better than the crap you suggested.

    A big market would figure it out by years end.
     
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    So would you be happy with the deal if CP3 guaranteed he would stay? Maybe a sign and trade?
     
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    The they was mistaken as meaning the draft picks.

    It is a common mistake for people to think that making a team horrible to give them better lotto chances makes a trade better. New Orleans being awful would be entirely separate.

    If all it would take for Orlando to do was give the Hornets two unprotected picks, Jameer Nelson, and other cap relief then CP3 would be Florida bound.

    Atleast put Batum in your scenario. Somebody might believe his supposed endless potential adds up to CP3 value.
     
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    Tell me again where Wallace was drafted?
    And I submit that, given 4 picks in the Top 25, there is a very high probability that you will be a better team over the 4 years of those 4 picks under contract than the next 18 months of a maybe-slightly but still past-his-prime Crash. For the same cost.
     
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    Wallace is one of my favorite blazers and id hate to see him moved esp for picks that wont be lottery based. I would also rather have wallace then crawford and landry although to add a few picks and both of those players would be hard to pass up but because im such a fan of wallace id still pass unless we deal other guys and just rebuiild.
     
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    He wont stay so its a moot point. He has said he would stay with ny, or either la team. No other teams.
     
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    Twitter Rumor

    Man twitter has become the Online Tabloid these days.
     
    HailBlazers, Dec 14, 2011
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    4 picks in the top 25? Where/how?
     
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    But unfortunately for Orlando, they don't have that ability. They don't have contracts that are expiring. Camby and Felton will both be expiring. That is around 20 mil off their books. Then you give them another flexibility piece in a 7.5-.8.5 mil TE for a sign and trade for Landry. Also, giving them two first rounders, with the good chance their team could get a very high draft pick; makes this very appeasing to another buyer.

    You are looking only at talent and not at this as a business standpoint. You are giving another owner a blank canvas with low salary, a lot of first rounders and a ton of cap space.
     
    magnifier661, Dec 14, 2011
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    Because no other teams were in the hunt. Again, I asked you what "High Market Team" has that flexibility now? You saying they can just make it happen is even more outrageous than this scenario.
     
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