Brandon to be amnestied

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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    I figured as much, since there was no other way to sign Crawford to that amount otherwise
     
  2. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    How much money did signing Crawford actually cost PA. Does Crawford contract takes us more into luxury and does having to amnesty Roy cost PA extra?

    Ahh . . . who cares. Crawford is probably good for a few wins. And you know this makes LA a happy camper . . . no talks of trade demands from our franchise player.
     
  3. ironcrotch

    ironcrotch Well-Known Member

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    I'm hoping someday in the near future the franchise and the fans can give him a proper good bye and thank you.
     
  4. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Actually they're going to save money, because even with Crawford's contract they'll be below the tax line, so we're no longer shelling out ~10 million in tax payments this year.
     
  5. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    Even more of a bonus!

    Seen your argument for the team having to suck to really get better. Don't agree but I get whta you are saying. But what about LA demanding a trade if this team really does tank. In today's NBA, taht is real possiblity. Worth the risk?
     
  6. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    but PA might also be on the hook for the 64M left on Brandon's contract, rather than the insurance company if Roy was medically retired. But no one's been clear on whether or not PA had an insurance policy on Roy OUTSIDE of the League's global coverage (which Roy didn't qualify for) that covers PA if Roy doesn't play for any reason whatsoever.
     
  7. Further

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but insurance will pay the same regardless if Roy was amnestied or not?
     
  8. BoBoBREWSKI

    BoBoBREWSKI BURP!

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    Link... source?
     
  9. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I actually think you could get LA on board. Players understand better than anybody else what it takes to win (and I mean WIN!) and that usually means a team having more than 1 guy who needs to be double-teamed. Of course nobody likes to lose, but with a light at the end of the tunnel (whether that's a trade for a star, drafting a future star or a free agent acquisition) it wouldn't be too hard to sell.

    In any case LA would have no leverage for another 3 years or so to demand a trade because of his contract status.
     
  10. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    I'll find all the sources again, they're buried in one of the threads, but here's the gist:

    1) Roy never qualified for the League Insurance policy.

    2) Speculation was that PA took the money that Roy wasn't guaranteed his final year (~7M, iirc) and bought into the insurance policy.
    3) If Roy was just a regular guy like Chauncey Billups or Outlaw who got amnestied, PA would be on the hook for every dime of Roy's contract.
    4) If there was a medical retirement (like Miles), or even just a season-ending injury (like LaFrentz or Joel), the insurance policy would kick in after 1/2 the season missed and pay 80-85% of the salary until the player played again or the contract ran out.
    No one has reported the details of the insurance policy yet (that I've seen). If Roy was just plain amnestied, PA owes 64M out of his pocket. If a medical retirement was allowed, and the policy was the same guidelines as the NBA one that Roy didn't qualify for automatically, PA would only have to pay 15-20% of Roy's contract ($10M or so), meaning that medical retirement vs. amnesty could save PA 50M.

    Again, it's all up to the details of the insurance policy.
     
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    Further likes this.
  11. Trader Ed

    Trader Ed Go Blazers!

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    as I mentioned a few days ago... I thought they would. It just seemed to the logical way to go to add someone else.
     
  12. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    http://twitter.com/#!/jwquick/status/146351444491108353

     
  13. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    why would it be, Jason Quick? If we would've amnestied LMA or Camby, and they didn't play this year, no insurance would've paid that.
     
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    Any reliable sources confirming this?
     
  15. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Quick isn't reliable enough for you?
     
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    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    Well, Coach Iavaroni called and confirmed it, so I feel better.
     
  17. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I wonder how Roy is going to take this? Seriously...
     
  18. ironcrotch

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    In typical Roy fashion.

    jwquick: Agent Greg Lawrence says Roy "at peace" w/amnesty decision. "It gives some closure. It makes him happy it allows them to sign a player."
     
  19. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    He's got 63 million reasons not to care one bit ... hell, he's the one who announced his retirement last week.

    Repeat after me, "everything's gonna be OK."
     
  20. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    OMG, almost brought a tear to my eye. Man all those posts about Roy being some primodanna is surely backfiring.
     

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