He played 14 years with the Lakers averaging 24.7. He even averaged 38 ppg one season. If it werent for the Celtics led by Hondo, Bill Sharman, Bill Russell and Cousy to name a few, he and Jerry West would have won multiple titles imo. The year after he retires the Lakers win the championship finally. That has got to sting...I do feel bad for him. He was one of the greatest players ever, and I wish he got to share that title with Wilt and Jerry West..
Do I feel bad that the Celtics out played the Lakers so Baylor never EARNED a championship? No not really... :HAHAHA:
No, he was detrimental to the Lakers. It's no coincidence that LA won their first chip when he retired 5 games into the 1971-1972 season.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 12 2006, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I dont know much about that. Can you explain it to me?</div>The Lakers team strategy in the 60's was get the ball inbounds, and West or Baylor will get it and score. All they did was have them two go one on one. When Wilt came, West layed off with the one on one stuff and bought into the team concept a little bit more, Baylor didn't. So he would regularly be taken out of games, finally, he was forced out by Bill Sharman in 1971. The Lakers won the first 33 games they played without him.
i feel sorry for him bc his middle name is "Gay". Am i sorry for him bc my Cs beat him out? not at all.
Oh really? I didn't know that that was when they set the 33 game record mark. Right after he retired, wow. At least he's making the Clips successful, so he can beat the lakers, haha.
Everyone has their fair chance. Baylor had his. I'm sure he's moved past that now, and he's aiming for a title with the Clippers.
No, if you cant feel sorry for Karl Malone for not getting a ring, you cant feel sorry for this guy...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jul 18 2006, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No, if you cant feel sorry for Karl Malone for not getting a ring, you cant feel sorry for this guy...</div>Why would I feel sorry for Malone? One of the dirtiest players ever in the history of the NBA. I dont feel sorry for that douche..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Jul 18 2006, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why would I feel sorry for Malone? One of the dirtiest players ever in the history of the NBA. I dont feel sorry for that douche..</div>Maybe because he is a top ten player in NBA history...and he never won a ring.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 19 2006, 04:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ouch.No love for one of the greatest Forwards in NBA History..</div>He just said he was a detriment to the lakers, if he was then he can't be one of the greatest foward in nba history. You watch him and he doesn't look as talented as players today.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>He just said he was a detriment to the lakers, if he was then he can't be one of the greatest foward in nba history. You watch him and he doesn't look as talented as players today.</div>That means absolutely nothing. Players today have better training and equipment than players like Baylor who played in the 60s and 70s. If he was playing today, he would be just as great now as then. Great players are always great players, no matter the era.
I'm not so sure that George Mikan would be a dominating Center this day in age though. Malone was close several times to a title, but never pulled it off with Stockton. I think he would have found better luck in another generation than with Air Jordan and Hakeem.
Actually Elgin Baylor retired the same year the Lakers won a ring lol. Even worse. If only he stuck around for a couple more months.
Elgin Baylor is probably the 2nd greatest scorer of all time, second to Wilt. and yes, ahead of Jordan. Elgin was unstoppable. I don't feel too bad for him, his Laker teams not only played against those immortal Celtic teams in the 1960's, but they always managed to screw up at the wrong times. Or, did the Celts just always get real lucky? who knows.I do think it's a bit sad that the Lakers started that 33 game win streak the same game Elg retired. That 1972 is arguably the greatest NBA team ever, or close to it, yet it happend once Elgin retired. :no1:
I dont know man. If Shaq played back then, he would have scored as much as Wilt. Probably more. You cant say he is the 2nd greatest scorer ever, because alot of current all stars would be averaging like 35-40 ppg back then too.And if you look at Michael playing back then, I would definately believe that he could leave with a career scoring average of 40.How about we settle at 2nd greatest scorer of his era..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Aug 11 2006, 07:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I dont know man. If Shaq played back then, he would have scored as much as Wilt. Probably more. You cant say he is the 2nd greatest scorer ever, because alot of current all stars would be averaging like 35-40 ppg back then too.And if you look at Michael playing back then, I would definately believe that he could leave with a career scoring average of 40.How about we settle at 2nd greatest scorer of his era..</div>I don't think so, defenders were rough back then. MJ wouldn't be able to waltz into the paint in the 1960's the way he did in the 90's. He would have been knocked on his a*ss more than a few times.When I said Elgin Baylor was the 2nd greatest scorer, I wasn't talking in terms of the amount of points. I was talking about the ways he scored. He completley changed the game. He was scoring in ways people have never seen before. He modernized the game.
