It's a futile hobby, and it shows your own lack of understanding of those you are judging. JMO, though.
I am simplifying the concept into parenting because many people can understand. Think of the relationship between the parent and their child is god and us. The parent makes the rules to the child. The child chooses to obey or not and must face the level of consequence from that parent. So it has nothing to do if it's right or wrong by us. It's between the parent and child. So this is why I think you don't get it. P.s. have you ever been in love? Do you love your parents? Siblings?
i understand very well, and even if there's no communication it's not futile if it helps me clarify my own thoughts or if someone else reading his thread gets anything out of it.
you're simplifying the biblical concept of sin and punishment so it fits better with modern notions of morality and culpability.
i don't think the concept of sin and punishment as described in the bible is analogous in any way to a parent teaching a child they love through discipline, if that's what you're getting at.
You think you understand. I'll give you that. I don't see you as being too interested in clarifying your own thoughts, though. You seem more interested in logical "Gotcha" posts at this point, and that's not very fair to those who have faith. It comes across as you passing judgement.
i am passing judgement on faith. i think faith-based belief is in general counterproductive and dangerous and the world would be a better place without it.
I know. As I said, you're the only one passing judgement in the thread, even as you're setting up hypothetical strawmen of generic Christians passing judgement on others. It's called irony. Look into it.
Yet here you are, trying to convince people that they shouldn't be in love, and passing judgement on them for being in love. As I said, it's ironic.
Why? Love isn't physical but u know it's there. You have completely contradicted yourself, saying that the belief of faith is destructive, yet belief in love is subjective. You can't pick and choose things to work in your debate, which is why you aren't realizing the difference of those that have faith and those that want concrete scientific logical description. Love is not logical, it's just there. Just like faith. And for you to think people or the belief of faith is wrong because you can't logically explain it would mean the same for love. So let me ask you again. Have you ever been in love?
i said that where? i don't think you even read my posts. the only thing i'm trying to convince anyone of is faith isn't a means to objective truth.
What proof do you have that supports this claim? I don't believe it exists. You are contradicting yourself. So me love...
scientific studies that show biophysical changes in the body corresponding to certain emotional feelings described as love, consistent with a similar pattern found for all other emotions. hu?
Psst... Notice how it is described as a "social phenomenon"? Do you know what that means? Do you know that even today, professionals are still trying to explain factual explanations of love. Trying to ping physical and biological properties? Do you know they are all still theories? Do you know what theory means?
