Is there an Atheist?

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  1. TripTango

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    I wasn't accusing you of being hostile personally -- only observing that aggressive attacks on deeply personal belief systems often result in hostility between people who may otherwise agree on the vast majority of important questions.

    Good luck with that hammer. :)
     
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    cool but how do you get from there to necessarily taking genesis so literally your fighting against science? serious question, not intended to be confrontational.
     
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    unfortunately deeply personal belief systems tend to directly address the vast majority of important questions.
     
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    Thank you for sharing that, seriously. And I'm glad you were able to turn your life around.
     
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    Not to be confrontational, but how is taking Genesis literally necessarily fighting against science?
     
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    I guarantee you that there are atheists out there who disagree with just about everything you stand for, whatever your political persuasion may be. Why single out religion as the litmus test of agreement?
     
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    I believe ... I'll have another drink.
     
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    Some have said there's religion in that, alone. ;)
     
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    Well it requires a large amount of faith. But sometimes I look at it like humans don't have the brainpower to fully understand what was meant during the days of the Bible. There could be "stories told" that may have the people of those days understand the true meaning. It could be that God's 7 days could be millions of years; to a being that is the "Alpha and Omega". I don't see time even being something that a supreme being even thinks about. People during those days saw no computers, planes, guns, lasers, or even traveled into space.

    What I do find extremely interesting is no matter where you are, there is religion. There are people in different parts of the world preaching "Love" as being the supreme power. I believe in this very same thing. I think Love is the most power tool on this planet. More powerful than a nucleur bomb, or the largest of armies.
     
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    I am just trying to give you guys the understanding on why I am so passionate about my religion. This is definitely not fake. And it's truly hard to explain.
     
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    i don't really stand for much politically, but where i do religious fundamentalism happens to be the primary cause of disagreement.
     
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    Without opening the mind, I don't think our society would get to where we are today. Regardless it being a "romantic" religious path, or a "Dedicated Scientific" path. Many thought the world was flat until we discovered it. Many thought the Earth was the center of the universe, until we disproved that. Many thought only birds could fly, and we took care of that.

    I think human's, sometimes being destructive in the process, seek out meaning. We are problem solvers and get the greatest reward in learning.
     
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    So you don't think people without religion won't wage war or become extremests? Even in pro-sports, some fans will kill each other because of their dedication of their team. That has absolutely 0 to do with religion. I have seen countries try to exterminate an entire race for the love of their leader. I have seen cities or families wage war with each other just because the other holds a different view on life.
     
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    so you do allow room for science to possibly be correct about the age of the earth and evolution to possibly be "part of god's plan" or whatever. that wasn't my impression from the other thread. i apologize for calling you an extremist : )
     
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    So, you don't care what people do, as long as they don't do it for god?
     
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    I 100% believe in science. I would want nothing more than for man to constantly feel the need to learn. I don't think God put us on this planet to become robots. I think he's enjoying our progress. We are a very powerful being. You don't see Monkeys or Dogs building computers or making spaceships. Also, the poetry and story telling is amazing. This is all because of our need to feel. Human life is the best romatic novel ever created. No one can know it all, and we aren't even close to knowing little.
     
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    no, i don't care what people believe as long as it doesn't affect me.

    i just happen to be most concerned with disagreements that do affect me or the well being of humans in general and stem largely from the certainty associated with religious belief, such as creationism as part of science curriculums (although i know that battle has been pretty much won already), gay marriage, abortion, and also arguably the debate over energy.
     
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    Sounds like someone's got some self-esteem issues.

    Get help.

    http://www.lifescript.com/Soul/Self...ection_Dealing_With_Undesirable_Emotions.aspx
     
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    Luckily for you guys, I DO have all the answers.

    Sure it's a tough economy right now, but all it takes to live the high life is a little out-of-the-box thinking.

    http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/HowTo:Make_money_without_getting_a_job
     
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    Again, "I don't know and I don't care" apply to agnostics, not Atheists.

    Atheists know god does not exist, and most care that others are being deceived and exploited.
     

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