Sophomore Surge or Sophomore Slump?

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  1. KMart?

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    Look for Charlie V to have a massive year. He is in a situation on the Bucks where he might become their second option, and with Michael Redd being so unselfish, we could see 15 shots per game
     
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    Here are my picks for sophomore surge:Chris Paul - This dude is going to go crazy next year, he has so many options on that team that he'll pass to: Peja, David West, Cedric Simmons, Hilton Armstrong, and Tyson Chandler. I expect Tyson to get 13 ppg and 11 rpg because of Chris Paul. Paul's assist numbers will go up, and his ppg will not raise dramatically, but to about maybe 17, or 18. Raymond Felton - He is in a good situation in Charlotte. Like Paul, he also has many options. Felton could have become ROY if he played like he did in the 2nd half of the year all year. In the first half he struggled a bit, but shortly after the All-Star break, he really started to pick it up. Okafor is expected to come back healthy as ever after that injury last year that made him sit out for many, many games. Gerald Wallace is rising as the superstar of that team, and I've said it before and I'll say it again: Ray Felton, Gerald Wallace, and Emeka Okafor will become one of the best trios in the Eastern conference. Morrison is a good candidate for ROY and he's a spot-up shooter, so I expect him to get many dishes from Felton while driving to the basket. Martell Webster - Some people will say that he's not ready to contribute yet, and that he needs to develop his skills. BS. I've seen clips of him in Summer League (i know its just summer league, but whatever) and he has an incredible shot. I saw clips of him playin' against the Wiz, and he was making all types of shots: fadeaways, lean in-shots, and even bank shots. He has very good range, and he reminds me of Ray Allen. He could be another Ray Allen in the future, as well. I'm predicting 10 ppg, 3 apg, and 5 rpg.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 14 2006, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Rashad McCants</div>I guess you could say that, but he is out for the season.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Jul 14 2006, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Martell Webster - Some people will say that he's not ready to contribute yet, and that he needs to develop his skills. BS. I've seen clips of him in Summer League (i know its just summer league, but whatever) and he has an incredible shot. I saw clips of him playin' against the Wiz, and he was making all types of shots: fadeaways, lean in-shots, and even bank shots. He has very good range, and he reminds me of Ray Allen. He could be another Ray Allen in the future, as well. I'm predicting 10 ppg, 3 apg, and 5 rpg.</div>Even though Brandon Roy, who plays his position, is in town?Marvin Williams is a safer bet in this category.
     
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    You guys have 'sophomore slumps' listed who never played last year...
     
  6. MosDefinitely

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    Agreeded with BCB, some of these guys havent even made a mark on the NBA and are already predicted to slump, Bynum for one is a very young player and I think he will only get better but you have to be patient. Martell Webster and Marvin Williams I predict will showcase to the NBA exactly why they were drafted so high. On player im really high on for this coming season is Ike Diogu from the Warroriors, I expect him to be a stud next year for Golden State.
     
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    Raymond Felton-With Brevin Night leaving, he will get more minutes and will have an awesome year. To me, he was the #2 or #3 rookie this season. I am looking for him to get around 15 and 6. Marvin Williams- He didnt get great playing time this year and he is improving everyday IMO. He has freakish athleticism and is going to fill in to his shoes this upcoming season. Im not going to put numbers on his but he will do good.Andrew Bynum-He averaged 1 point this season so he cant go anywhere but up. As you get older, you mature more and that is exactley what he is going to do this season. he wont be great but how can you not serge from last year...he never played!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Jul 14 2006, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Even though Brandon Roy, who plays his position, is in town?Marvin Williams is a safer bet in this category.</div>He could still produce those numbers off the bench... :dunno: Williams wont improve THAT much, you still have Josh Childress and Josh Smith at the forward positions. He isnt even a PF. Shelden Williams is another forward they have added in the mix. If he improves, he'll average 8 ppg, and 5 rpg. Off the bench.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Jul 15 2006, 12:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He could still produce those numbers off the bench... :dunno: Williams wont improve THAT much, you still have Josh Childress and Josh Smith at the forward positions. He isnt even a PF. Shelden Williams is another forward they have added in the mix. If he improves, he'll average 8 ppg, and 5 rpg. Off the bench.</div>Childress is a waste..He'll be traded at some point..Shelden is our PF/C, so he won't even contradict the playing time of Marvin..
     
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    How can Rashad McCants slump? He probably won't even play this year.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Jul 14 2006, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Even though Brandon Roy, who plays his position, is in town?Marvin Williams is a safer bet in this category.</div>Roy has been mostly playing PG for Portland in Summer League and I wouldn't be suprised if he did for Portland in the NBA as well. He'll probably be switching a lot between the 1 and 2 so it shouldn't affect Websters playing time most likely.Anyways as I have said so many times the guy I am high on is Raymond Felton. This guy was incredible in the last two months of the season and was putting up Chris Paul numbers other than rebounds. I can definetly see this guy averaging around 15-16 ppg next season and 8+ apg next season. Two other guys are Webster and Gerald Green. Webster did have some pretty good games when given decent playing time and I think it is a given he'll get pretty good playing time this season so he should put up pretty good numbers. Yea I know Green didn't even get his first minute till the end of the season but once he finally started playing he wasn't doing to bad at all. If this guy does get decent playing time next year I think he can definetly be productive for Boston. I'm not so high on Williams still. I'm expecting him to break out by his third season. I think he'll definetly end up being a great player out of the draft though.
     
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    It's amazong to me that nobody has mentioned Andrew Bogut. he averaged 9 and 7 last season. No chance he'll be better??
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ProStix#6 @ Jul 15 2006, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's amazong to me that nobody has mentioned Andrew Bogut. he averaged 9 and 7 last season. No chance he'll be better??</div>I think he will be better. I think everyone pretty much said all the player that will break out.Also Iguodala I think will break out even though it was not his first season last season. I am just saying he will break out next season I am thinking.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Jul 16 2006, 04:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think he will be better. I think everyone pretty much said all the player that will break out.Also Iguodala I think will break out even though it was not his first season last season. I am just saying he will break out next season I am thinking.</div>Iguodala will only break out if Iverson and/or Webber are not in a Sixer uniform next season, or if he magically has a mindset to attack aggressively on offense (if both AI and CWebb are still in town).
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Jul 16 2006, 02:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Iguodala will only break out if Iverson and/or Webber are not in a Sixer uniform next season, or if he magically has a mindset to attack aggressively on offense (if both AI and CWebb are still in town).</div>Thats basically it. If both AI and Cwebb stay he won't breakout unless he finally decides to start to attack and be agressive on offense. We saw he could do it when AI was out for liek a week during the season.
     
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    I dunno, I cant really see Iggy as a superstar/allstar type of player..i see him more of a complimentary type of player, but again I only see him when he plays the Raptors. If AI left i dont think Iggy would benefit, AI draws attention to himself therefore opening up the floor for the rest of the team so less focus is on Iggy, also all of Igoudala's highlighs always have iverson in them. Stil he is a solid player and I would take him on my team anyday...guess im still a little angry that the Raptors passed on Igoudala and took the Brazilian Bust!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MosDefinitely @ Jul 16 2006, 11:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I dunno, I cant really see Iggy as a superstar/allstar type of player..i see him more of a complimentary type of player, but again I only see him when he plays the Raptors. If AI left i dont think Iggy would benefit, AI draws attention to himself therefore opening up the floor for the rest of the team so less focus is on Iggy, also all of Igoudala's highlighs always have iverson in them. Stil he is a solid player and I would take him on my team anyday...guess im still a little angry that the Raptors passed on Igoudala and took the Brazilian Bust!</div>Actually it's the exact opposite. Iggy really played his best when AI wasn't playing. Was it AI's fault? No. It's just for some reason when Iggy gets the ball if both Cwebb and AI are playing he wants to give it back instead of being agressive and taking it to the hoop liek I've seen he can do.
     
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    [quote name='BigMo763' post='116341' date='Jul 16 2006, 05:33 AM']Iguodala will only break out if Iverson and/or Webber are not in a Sixer uniform next season, or if he magically has a mindset to attack aggressively on offense (if both AI and CWebb are still in town).[/quote]I think Iguodala will be forced to break out if AI is gone, because except for Webber someone else would need to score. But even with AI I think he can break out next season.[quote name='iversonfan268' post='116442' date='Jul 16 2006, 01:27 PM']Thats basically it. If both AI and Cwebb stay he won't breakout unless he finally decides to start to attack and be agressive on offense. We saw he could do it when AI was out for liek a week during the season.[/quote]That was what I was saying even with AI, and Webber he will break out. Not be afraid to dribble, shoot, be more agressive, get more rebounds, and assists. And we saw him do it not just when AI was not playing. There were a few games were he did break out in games AI did play in.Iguodala just needs to stop being scared to dribble, shoot, and take it to the hoop. And AI would give the ball to him more then he would to Webber I am sure of that. AI likes Iguodala they were chilling at the all star break. AI was there cheering for him in the rookie/Sophomore game when he could have been some were partying. Also he helped him in the dunk contest. He tell Iguodala to be more agressive all the time. He said it in the media once also once I am pretty sure. And it was not mean as a blow to Iguodala he was just saying.[quote name='MosDefinitely' post='116447' date='Jul 16 2006, 02:00 PM']I dunno, I cant really see Iggy as a superstar/allstar type of player..i see him more of a complimentary type of player, but again I only see him when he plays the Raptors. If AI left i dont think Iggy would benefit, AI draws attention to himself therefore opening up the floor for the rest of the team so less focus is on Iggy, also all of Igoudala's highlighs always have iverson in them. Stil he is a solid player and I would take him on my team anyday...guess im still a little angry that the Raptors passed on Igoudala and took the Brazilian Bust![/quote]Nah Iguodala can easily make a all star game he just needs to not be scared to dribble, and get a more consistant shot. Work on that consistant shot he will be a all star. If AI leaves it won't be as easy for Iguodala to get open, but then it would force Iguodala to dribble, and take more shots. Because now he can take it easy with Webber, and AI as our main guys. But then he will be forced to dribble, and shoot more even if he does not want to with AI, and/or Webber gone.[quote name='iversonfan268' post='116452' date='Jul 16 2006, 02:08 PM']Actually it's the exact opposite. Iggy really played his best when AI wasn't playing. Was it AI's fault? No. It's just for some reason when Iggy gets the ball if both Cwebb and AI are playing he wants to give it back instead of being agressive and taking it to the hoop liek I've seen he can do.[/quote]Well :doh: he has to dribble, and shoot more with AI, or Webber out then even if he is scared. He just has to learn if AI stays that even with both AI, and Webber on the floor he needs to be agressive, not be afraid to dribble, and not be afraid to shoot, or take it to the hoop. Trust me AI will pass to Iguodala. I am sure AI would trust Iguodala more then Webber on one leg if Iguodala just stoped being scared.
     

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