Hollywood Wouldn't Back Lucas Film About Tuskegee Airmen Due to All Black Cast

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  1. Denny Crane

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    All I know is I see the previews for the movie on TV and it looks like a fantastic movie.
     
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    The previews I see make the movie look embarrassingly bad.
     
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    Sure it has nothing to do with the fact that Lucas's last four films were horrendous (SW 1-3 & Crystal Skull)?
     
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    Star Wars III got a 7.8/10 on IMDB by voters.
     
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    Certainly looks corny, but I plan on going to see it.
     
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    Previews definitely give this vibe, which makes me want to see it. I'm all about the Ghost Protocols and stuff, but sometimes I enjoy the simple, corny stuff as well.
     
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    Yeah, it's terrible.

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    the movie looks absolutely horrible. a bunch of one liners, CGI and they had a dubstep soundtrack to the movie? its like he went back to the future into the past and rewrote history.
     
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    The movie looks completely horrible! They are using modern slang for a time that was in the 40's. No one talked like that.
     
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    Nick Sabin took his team to watch this movie the night before they ceremoniously dismantled the LSU Tigers. He cited many (inspirational) quotes from the movie during his post-game interviews.
     
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    The movie looks like shit in previews.
     
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    YOU GOT GOT SON!
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    Exactly! I know war vets that would take serious offense of the representation of that war. I guess the patroit in me, and being surrounded by a family of vets turned me off to something as simple as "slang"
     
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    I remember way back when, when they were going to re-make that Shogun series using an all Black cast. Yep, they were gonna call it Shonuf. Somehow didn't fly, though. ;)
     
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    I wonder if they get medals at the end of the movie, LMFAO suddenly busts on the scene and they shuffle during the ending credits.
     
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    Since when do studios care more about putting out good movies then making money? If that were the truth, those horrible Transformer movies wouldn't have been made, or those shitty Twilight movies.

    Hate on the SW1-3 all you want, they made money.
     
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    Aren't the newer Star Was movies coming back out in theaters in 3d? I'm sure all the people that completely despise them will be first in line to go see them. :MARIS61:
     
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    All of those were guaranteed to be huge at the box-office both stateside and internationally no matter what. Red Tails isn't. That's the point. It's the reason we're discussing. Lucas is saying because Hollywood liberals put money ahead of everything else (and are overt racists) he couldn't get the film financed and had to do it himself. That's why Denny's into the narrative BTW--paints liberals as hypocrites. Good fap material.

    I'll explain to you what is wrong with George Lucas' argument:

    His "all-black cast" includes Bryan Cranston (Breaking Bad), who's probably the highest paid actor on the project, yet they've made an effort to keep him out of trailers and off the poster. I think he's third-billed behind CGJ and the inimitable Terrance Howard.

    The "story that's never been told that made the surviving Airmen cry" was told in 1995 ("The Tuskegee Airmen"), and Cuba Gooding Jr., who's in this film, was in that one as well.

    Lucas cast Method Man and Ne-Yo. Kind of like how he stunt-cast Samuel L. Jackson to be in the prequel Trilogy (to play a contemplative monk, a role we've seen SLJ in so many times before...). This is a money choice not an art choice.

    Lucas said the film was "expensive", at $58-million, which was another reason for the distributors to avoid it. Here are the top ten films in the box-office right now:

    The Devil Inside ($1-million)
    Ghost Protocol ($145-million)
    Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows ($125-million)
    The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo ($90-million)
    Alvin & The Chipmunks: Chipwrecked ($80-million)
    War Horse ($67-million)
    We Bought a Zoo ($50-million)
    The Adventures of Tintin ($125-million)
    Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy ($21-million)
    The Darkest Hour ($30-million)

    The average is $73.4-million. Red Tails cost $58-million. So by expensive I guess Lucas meant less than average.

    The question is why would distributors not think this would make money?

    Ray had a mostly black cast and it made money. Bad Boys & Bad Boys II were huge. I guess if you have a black movie without any black stars that is kind of an issue, probably as much as it is for any movie released in the dead part of the film season that doesn't screen for critics. Lucas is full of shit.
     
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    I'm also amused that Lucas is hung-up on the dialogue being intentionally cliched, considering...
     
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