Philosophical question?

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  1. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

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    what would you do if god tells you to murder babies?

    what kind of hypotheticals are these? So everyone in the entire world, minus me, is getting together, and agreeing that allah is the one true god, then what do I do? I guess I still believe what I believe.
     
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    what?

    what? superior species?

    what lol?
     
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    How can you accuse him of twisting your words and the spout this?
     
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    To pose as a christian to destroy the faith? Wouldn't that then imply that he thought what he was doing was wrong, and that people would in turn hate christianity because of his support?
    Look, I don't at all think he's a representation of christians. But he wasn't an atheist. He had his beliefs and reasons for doing what he did.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Okay let's review...

    "Is what is morally good commanded by God because it is morally good, or is it morally good because it is commanded by God?"

    Philosophically this is a dilema to Christians, other religions and even non-believers. The reason is how can we follow a morality that so many disagree with? So what do we as a people do? Do we join one group that we agree most with, or do we just accept the fact that we are incapable of understand what is truly moral?

    Again another philosophical issue that questions our understanding. This would be the same statement without God. Is the law or "order" of evolution justify mass murder of a class of humans because another group is strong enough to wipe them out; or can they just wipe them out because it is part of the law or order of evolution?

    And my reference to you playing God has everything to do with this statement that is adopted by almost every philosopher.

    You already know something is good because you understand it's not right to kill on your own accord. That means you know the difference between "right and wrong" therefor you claim you have the same powers of God.

    I think it's you that doesn't understand what he said.
     
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    Crazy huh?
     
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    He was crazy to the core no matter what. I don't see how someone can profess to believe in Jesus Christ and then turn around and slaughter 6 million Jewish people. There's no possible way to know for sure if he was an atheist, but I can tell you by his own admission that he was NOT a Christian. Truthfully, no one wants to be associated with that scumbag.
     
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    What is your point? That atheists can murder too? People can use anything, be it Christianity, Islam, Communism, etc, to justify their actions. That is not unique to Atheists. You also fail to mention that the world population in the 20th century was way higher than during the crusades or any other time in history? The fact that we can now kill millions with one bomb also should be mentioned.
     
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    Twisting? Why would it be twisting? It's the truth.
     
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    supernatural meatball? :lol:

    most animals kill each other, humans are the only ones smart/dumb enough to feel bad about it
     
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    I don't see how someone can believe in jesus and his teachings and do a lot of things. But then again, many just fall back on the thought that their sins have been forgiven already. So one man being much worse than the rest makes him less of a christian than you. Or mags. I mean, to mags, all sins are the same. So genocide or lusting after the neigbors new car. All equal. So why judge his actions as worse, and thus declare he can't possibly be a christian because of his actions.
     
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    It's the truth that if you believe in evolution you are ok with holocaust? Ok...
     
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    I don't ever feel bad when I take punks out on Call of Duty.
     
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    it's the truth that to believe in evolution means you are ok with the holocaust? Seriously? Seriously?
     
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    130 million in one century or 17 million in 20 centuries? Yeah... Christians were around in the 20th century too you know, and far outnumbered those atheists. Also I'm not aware of any of those deaths resulting from a nuclear bomb.
     
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    That doesn't at all address, though, the huge disparity in populations. What was the population of the world in 10 AD? Compared to during WWII?
     
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    No, not all sins are equal in the eyes of God. If you read the Bible you would know that. You're not going to "fool" God. Jesus sacrifice didn't give us a free pass to sin whenever we like. God knows the heart, and the closer you get to God the more you will utterly despise your sin. Also, Europe was overwhelmingly Roman Catholic in Hitlers day, I wouldn't be surprised if that move was for political reasons, too.
     
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    what don't you understand. What do you need me to clearify? "What?" is too generalized.

    What gives you the right to think otherwise? Are you superior to them? Was it morally right to put all of them (The Nazi extremists) to death for what the majority worly opinion believes was morally wrong?

    Sounds logically idiotic doesn't it?
     
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    Christians were around in the 20th century too you know. And atheists were around in 10 AD.
     
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    Jesus said that it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of the needle then for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. How many Christians do you see ridding themselves of all their earthly possessions? But, if they want to get to heaven why don't they?
     

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