What does "ok" mean? You don't believe in "Survival of the fittest?" If you don't then the entire theory of evolution has just become "debunked"
You are 1000% correct. Every belief can be abused. Christians can kill because they twist God's teachings. Atheists or "Evolutionists" or "Naturalists" or any "ists" can twist anything to justify their actions. They just have to be extremely good at selling it to enough people to support their beliefs.
Okay so killing a million people that was maybe 10% of the population, killing a thousand people that was 50% of the population or killing 1 person that is 1,000,000th a percent of the population. Which was worse?
what you posted is nonsensical. again you're saying you aren't capable of determining genocide is immoral on your own. you need god to tell you that. that's pretty sad. the argument you're trying to make does, yes.
when we execute a person who was convicted of murdering a known murderer, does that mean three wrongs make a right? is it ok to murder a chicken and devour its flesh, but not okay for two roosters to fight to the death over mating territory? how about two humans? how many people would you kill to save the life of your child? 13? a million? all of them? heavy man
I'm not making an argument for which is worse. It seemed that by stating how many people atheists killed, versus Christians, that ORL2 WAS making that claim, however.
Why is it foolish? Telling me I'm foolish without proving I am in definition is actually making you look "nonsensical". I think I've done a pretty good job with explaining my opinion. You, on the other hand, would rather tell someone they are stupid because you can't clearly explain why they are stupid. Sounds a little hypocritical don't you agree? Oh wait, maybe you can pick on my grammer or inability of explaining the sqaure root of 1,300,000? Will that make me stupid? Don't avoid the reality. You admit you have "God" in you. Because right from wrong has always been there and you are capable of determining it. NOW WE ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE! Praise the Lord!
i think babies born on an island without knowledge of god or sin would do whatever the fuck they wanted to, and not think twice about it. they would fight for food or mates, and if the fights ended in death, so be it.
The point I was trying to make is that the track record for atheist leaders and societies is terrible, especially when people here want to claim that they have no problems discerning "right" and "wrong" moral values. And 130 million murders is indeed worse than 17 million.
Definition is lacking good sense, ridiculous, silly. To state that believing in evolution thus makes you ok with the holocaust is, by definition, foolish.
Oh really? How so? Do you believe in the "Survival of the Fittest?" You are generalizing popular belief as the measurement of "morality" this sentence alone proves that. Why is it okay for a Lion to kill their weak, when "They know not what is humanly moral"? Why would a fish kill be a cannibal if humanity believes eating our own is immoral? Why can we accept nature, but humanity has another set of rules? What makes us so special?
How is the track record for christian ones any better, then? 130 million os worse than 17, sure. I can get down with that. But, the figure is likely 130 million and 17 million because of the respective populations of the world at those times. If there were twice as many people in Germany during Hitler's time, it's believable, to me, that the number killed might be close to doubled as well. likewise, if instead of, generically, there being a population of 1 million people in 50BC, there were 7 billion, then that 17 million number, I'm guessing, would be a lot higher. That isn't to say one murderer wipes out 1 person in a room of 10, and another 10 in a room of 100 are equal, if they wanted that specific number. But, if you commit genocide on a city, the number dead can only reflect the population at the time. With god behind them helping in the killing, had there have been more non-believers around, their numbers would be higher.
wow. Uhm, I believe in evolution. I believe that our species evolved to where we currently are, and are continuing to evolve. I don't think it is acceptable to murder millions of people. if somehow you equate those that believe in evolution with supporting or being ok with the holocaust, or genocide in general, well, I dunno what to tell you. I don't.
Okay let's make it 50,000,000 people where killed by acts of Christian extremests and only 30 were killed in the act of Atheism. What's morally worse?
i hope nobody is actually getting pissed up in here, mags is playing devils advocate to the tee! bravo fine sir!
I'm going based upon what history has proven. The Western world was founded on Christian values, and atheist societies haven't been pretty.
