Anyone that wants to debate at a level playing field must read up on what the other group believes in. If I take "evolution" as some mockery; then I've already lost the battle. This is why I laugh at many atheists. They don't take the Bible seriously; so they don't even know the angle to come at Christians. Instead they call our book the non-fictional classic of some mass murderer. So why would Creationists or to go even further "Christians" take your doctrine seriously? What's your answer?
I did try to stay on topic, but somehow it morphed into evolution again. I don't know who did it; but I will defend points regardless where the OPs intention. So if someone said evolution is bullshit on the political threads; you wouldn't be compelled to defend it?
It makes sense if all life evolved from one original virrii/bacteria like thing, that dna would be generally similar. If it was all created, why is it all from GATC proteins? Science has shown it's possible to make it from 6 instead of 4. So shouldn't god have used the other 2 for the various things since he was creating all at the same time?
I call straw man! Who are these "many atheists"? Either cite them directly, or stop generalizing -- I hope you'll agree that I'm pretty familiar with and respectful of the Bible, even if I don't believe it to describe objective fact. As for your question, what doctrine are you talking about? I don't have a doctrine. Evolution is not doctrine. The great thing about science is that it is BUILT upon things being wrong, and corrected. Religions deal with doctrines -- eternal truths that are not up for debate or revision. This is a key difference.
Since we're tossing bones out, I've got one for creationist types. The first vertebrates more or less show up fully formed in the fossil record.
Then, you're no doubt solidly aware that the Bible, itself, doesn't describe many its contents as objective fact. Conversely, it beckons us to Faith.
Or if life had 1 creator. Let me ask you a question... Break apart a computer, radio, TV, and clock and tell me if you see things in common. All proof that even though they are relativily different; they all come from a very similar technology. And; millions of years from now; if somehow these components were dug up; it would prove that it came from one creator.
Easy... MARIS, Crowbot, RR7, Rasta and VanillaGorilla all have mocked the Bible. Does that qualify "many"? It certainly isn't a few or a couple right?
And the progression of species as time passes in the fossil record? God was just playing with us by saving his best designs for last, suspiciously planting them in a line to fool us into thinking they were connected?
So, your question was "why should Christians take science seriously when MARIS, Crowbot, RR7, Rasta and VanillaGorilla all have mocked the Bible?"
so if noah was 700 years old, how old was his dad? or his dads dad? whats the timeline here, because those 700's add up to more than 6000 in a hurry adam/eve----cain/abel----incest----??? thats all i got
Bingo. And I've got no scientific issue with Christians who take Genesis as an example of metaphorical truth. This thread was about those who DO take it as objective fact.
Thanks I appreciate it. You should check out that link I gave. It pretty much used all those links you gave me and gave descriptions that seemed much easier to study. Should help you.
Yes, if the jest of the debating is by them. You and Denny on the other hand have been very "unbias" for the most part. I mean come on buddy; you yourself have mocked our beliefs. Remember posting "Christian Circle Jerk"? You don't think that's condescending?
Certainly is a much easier read, seems unbiased as well, which is always the hardest to find when looking for these things!
