one step closer to aritficial life

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  1. TripTango

    TripTango Quick First Step

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    I don't use those. They sound so dirty.
     
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    oh i was using innuendo. you can pay me in cock meat
     
  3. TripTango

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    Will this do?

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    i can make it work, i can scratch his nails down my back, cover him in mud, and then eat him, becoming a dirty cock gobbler
     
  5. magnifier661

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    I'm still waiting for the day that science can take inatimate and make it organic without using living cells.

    Example: All the components that make up DNA, and fuse it. Then the next step would learn how to program it.
     
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    im still waiting for manbearpig

    if i was super secret smoking man cia dude, i would for sure have marilyn monroe clones serving me drinks, and clone einstien to try and figure out the stock market, and hitler as my fluffer
     
  7. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    so does this count?
     
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    Looks like they used life to create life. Or do I have some reading comprehension problem?
     
  9. Denny Crane

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    They've made life forms using DNA they made from organic compounds, and put that DNA into the husk of a bacteria cell.

    It's cheating, in my book, though impressive nonetheless.
     
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    It's pretty ironic how blind, dead matter can do a better job at creating life by accident than these brilliant scientists, huh?
     
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    I see no irony.

    It took nature a few hundred million years to make the first primitive form of life. We're looking at scientists trying to come up with a process that works within hours or minutes.
     
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    Of course, that's the way to give the illusion of plausibility. More time does not increase the chances though, in fact you can make a strong argument that it decreases the chances. Plus there's no proof or evidence, as always.
     
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    More time clearly increases the chances.

    Think of dice. If you get one roll, your chances of rolling snake eyes is 1 in 36. If you get 36 rolls, you'll likely roll snake eyes once.

    If you get millions of rolls, you'll certainly roll quite a few snake eyes.

    Maybe the right combination of things for life to form takes 200M years worth of rolls.
     
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    And yet there's still no evidence that life can spontaneously arrive from non-life. Explosions destroy, you know kill things. They don't create perfect order, life and inter-working systems. This is preschool knowledge.

    Also, giving nature billions of years doesn't lead to life. Because nature disorders, not orders, it doesn't organize things (as stated in the Second Law of Thermodynamics). Also, as things grow, they lose energy. It pretty much defeats the whole premise of life generating from non-living matter.
     
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    It is the disorganization that makes it so you roll dice 36 times and never get snake eyes. It's pure random luck.

    200 M years is a LOT of rolls of the dice.
     
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    And yet...it still doesn't prove that life can even come from non-life. And of course you'd need to throw on millions upon billions of years to make your theory appear more plausible to the laymen. But really you're playing with a whole lotta chance and virtually no evidence. Where did the dice come from?
     
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    The dice came from the cloud of gas that gravity pulled together to form the solar system.

    That gas came from the death of an earlier star that fused hydrogen and helium into heavier elements, particularly carbon. There's carbon in every organic molecule.
     
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    You're doing a good job dodging the points and questions, and you're digging yourself further into a hole. I like to base my opinions on where evidence lies, not unprovable theories by fallible men that change every 20 years. It's funny, I used to be of the atheistic belief that the big bang was an uncaused event and that galaxies and solar systems formed from nebula's and galactic gas clouds. Then I came to know reason.
     
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    But the world is only 6,000 years old, so that's nonsense.
     
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    So what's you take on Christians that actually believe the Universe is 17 billions of years old; or that the Earth is 5 billion year?
     

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