Evidence that "Atheism" is not a sound belief

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    nope.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    it's a hairbrained theory, trying to prove something...when in reality it proves nothing and makes the person who presented it (Kirk Cameron) look like a buffoon.
     
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    Trying to explain God to someone who doesn't know God is indeed like trying to describe colors to a blind man.
     
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    Okay so you are saying I am a baffoon because I am asking questions; and you can't answer them? Prove that these questions make me out as a baffoon. Answer them then.
     
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    Proof that god did not create anything. Since no creation was necessary as everything has always existed in one form or another, this would indicate god is unnecessary and has no place nor role in reality.


    How long have you unknowingly been an atheist?
     
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    no, I was calling Kirk Cameron a buffoon.

    you're presenting facts that don't necessarily equal what you said.

    It's like Kirk Camerons proof that a hand is shaped like a banana, therefore, god did it.

    It doesn't work that way.
     
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    No need to play the blame game here.

    Kirk Cameron doesn't need fruit to look like a buffoon.
     
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    Actually it's more like trying to convince an educated person that pigs fly.
     
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    Wow, so no one wants to tackle these questions? That's weird.
     
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    What are the rest MAGS?
     
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    I put a hit on them that knocked them out of the game.

    Beter bring out those other seven, and hopefully they are more relevant or at least related to the thread title.
     
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    Yeah? I'd like to see them.
     
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    Don't want to bring them out buddy. It seems these are enough for now. If you want me to PM them to you I can.
     
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    your questions are based on false premises. atheists are agnostic when it comes to the origin of life and the universe.

    if you're interested in the answer to #2 read the link i provided.
     
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    Okay so you then believe there could be a possible designer then?

    On answer #2 tell me what you think. Type it out and explain it, use the link if you need a reference. The burden of proof is on you. You are the one defending "Atheism".
     
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    i think given what we know about the mechanical nature of the laws of the universe and evolution the odds are against one existing, but it's possible.

    i don't have time or understanding of the topic to say much more than i said. entropy refers to systems, and complexity can arise in individual components of a system without an increase in overall entropy of the system. entropy is a bit of a complex topic, not as simple as creationists like to make it out to be. as i said i you want further technical details you are free to read the link.
     
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    Agnostics are agnostic (uncertain or don't care).

    Atheists KNOW god does not exist.
     
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    Yet scientifically; even a "law of science" makes it perfectly clear that mass and energy cannot come into existence from nothing. And if that's true; then how can the universe be created unless a deity put it there?

    But I actually think it is. In fact; entropy can be explained from something so small as a ice in a glass; to as large as the universe itself. Just because you would try and assume the universe is sooo big, one cannot explain it; yet once something becomes "scientific law"; that is law that cannot have contradiction. And since logically it cannot be contradicted; then how would you assume that the universe can actually; through chaos; become more organized?

    Because if there was no God; then if there was a "Big Bang"; there cannot be order. There cannot be life. Things cannot symbiotically mutate and the very existence of the universe would be lifeless and chaotic. You cannot take take something degrading and normalize it. That goes against the second law of thermal dynamics.
     
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    Hence how I stayed on topic. Thanks for the clarification MARIS
     

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