Evidence that "Atheism" is not a sound belief

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  1. magnifier661

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    Actually there is. You cannot have something out of nothing so it's infinite; but then if the big bang is the most logical answer of the creation of the universe; then law 2 contradicts the big bang. And life must create life; which again proves of a designer. I think the debate is over; but you aren't on the winning side.
     
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    Law 2 is not contradicted by the big bang. And nobody with a clue agrees that "life must create life."
     
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    Closed system? And which system is that? This universe?
     
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    Believe! Exactly! Now your catching on. Like I said. Show me evidence that life can be created without life. I can say millions more people believe god exists. That just isn't good enough.
     
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    I'm not making a claim. I know god is a fictional character. I know pigs don't fly. I know I love my wife.

    There's no burden of proof on me to convince others of the truth. Many people can't handle the truth. Maybe they're better off living a lie.

    I know Lisa Simpson is a fictional character or in the sense that I know Harry Potter is a fictional character.

    There is no evidence to suggest any one of the 3 ever existed in real life.

    If mags claims Lisa Simpson created the Earth in 7 days that puts the burden on me to prove it's nonsense? I don't think so.
     
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    Ok God, explain step-by-step how life comes from non-life, the rest of us 7 billion would like in on the secret. Oh, and "it had to have happened somehow over millions and billions of years" is not an answer
     
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    First of all, there is no unequivocal definition of life. My definition would be DNA, since without it there is no life.

    Second, amino acids have been shown to form readily in all sorts of environments. They've even created them in a laboratory using $10 worth of parts.

    Finally, amino acids are the building blocks of proteins that make up DNA.

    So like I said in the other thread, over 200M years, the various combinations and permutations of these building blocks in various environments (the environment changed a lot over those 200M years as the earth cooled) eventually made DNA and the first cell.
     
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    The blind faith you operate on is truly astonishing, like almost admirable. I consider myself a man of faith but you trump me in that department, no doubt about it. Guess I don't have enough faith to be an atheist ;(
     
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    What blind faith? Faith in a chemistry experiment that can be repeated in a high school chemistry lab?
     
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    Keep telling yourself that.
     
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    We know it exists.

    There is nothing to suggest it ever did not exist, nor that it will ever cease to exist.

    Logic suggests it has always existed and always will exist.
     
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    ....and somehow morphed into all humanity.

    I'll stick with the God version. Makes far more logical sense.
     
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    given the first law it seems at least a logical possibility that what exists has "always" existed in some sense.
     
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    Personally, I believe in the Big Bang theory: God spoke and, BANG, it came into existence.
     
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    this thread isn't specifically about the god of the bible. if it were i'd agree with you.

    you can't know with certainty that the origin of the universe did not involve some form of design. for all we know the universe itself may be intelligent in some sense that we aren't currently capable of understanding.
     
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    Sorry so far I still haven't seen any evidence to support I am wrong on my three points.

    Still looking for evidence that supports you can create life without life.

    I haven't seen a good evidence on existence from something from nothing.

    I haven't seen evidence that supports that the universe cannot regress as it expands.
     
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    Rep'd sorry my opinion on you was off. Im sorry....
     
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    sounds like faith to me. Not very logical.
     
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