Evidence that "Atheism" is not a sound belief

Sounds like we're in agreement with regards to morality then -- cool. I think you are slightly misreading Bacon's meaning with respect to superstition, but that's not a biggie. Anyway, that's probably enough time devoted to this particular tangent.

Of course, if there's anything worthy of going off-topic, it's bacon.

 

He is a stud!

 

I can respect that. But now you know how the other side feels. Many whom believe in God feel the exact same way about those that don't. It takes certain people to actually know how both sides feel.

I actually think we're getting somewhere now. Respect!

 

I agree. I mean, a discussion about stuff is fine. I used to share an office with a religious friend, and we would go back and forth, never getting work done. We were both comfortable enough in our beliefs, also, to be able to joke with eachother, without feeling like it's a personal insult to the other.

As for getting somewhere, in a thread proving atheism isn't a sound belief, I don't think we'll get anywhere. Evidence like what you have posted isn't true evidence. I really have no clue what sort of evidence would make me believe. I'll likely never know. But stuff that doesn't have an answer isn't it.

The nice thing is, I know where I came from(mom and dad) and have a pretty good idea of how I should act as an individual while I am on this earth. I do it to enjoy my time on this earth. It's fascinating to think of where mankind came from as a whole. But I don't need the answer to feel fulfilled. And I don't really care what happens after. I guess nothing. I'm not living just to make it elsewhere, and don't need to know. Some do for purpose. A lot of people need things in life. Some need an organized religion to, say, keep them from booze. Others, like my friend mentioned above, doesn't seem to "need" religion in that same way. He just believes, and acts, essentially, as jesus would. Or tries to. Some need to trumpet a lack of belief.

 

We agree.

Religion is catastrophic.

 

I guess that's why the concept escapes you.

 

All Bacon is saying is:
atheism = sane perception of reality = peaceful, moral society
superstition/religion = denial of reality = tyrany, immoral society

 

The courts in America are a tool of religion, controlled by religion, representing only religion.

There has never been a declared atheist on the supreme court in the entire history of our country, and all laws and modern day decisions on their interpretations have been made by religion.

By your definition atheists should pay no taxes on property owned by their businesses nor on any money they spend to educate people that there is no god. I could go on and on citing examples where law and the courts do not treat atheism as a religion, but you get the idea.

 

Everything is better with bacon!

 

Like the communist societies? You know they are atheists right? Over 250 million people killed in the last hundred years.

 

Maybe that has more to do with the military totalitarianism rather than the atheism.

 

And that same argument can be made to religious leaders that abuse the power.

 

Absolutely! And, what a travesty that is.

 

Totally agree. There are a lot of parallels between the two.

 

You are referring to murders committed by tyrants, dictators, and juntas against peaceful societies.

Governments are the antithesis of societies.

The populace of China, the largest concentration of atheists on the planet, is also one of the most peaceful, selfless and harmonious. Nearly all violence committed there is by the government and against society.

American society is highly religious in comparison, and is perhaps the most violent, selfish society on Earth.

 

Since they are preying on ignorance I'd say ALL religious leaders abuse their "power".

 

I'm sorry you feel that way. It's a narrow-minded viewpoint, but it belongs to you, nonetheless.