ACORN IS BACK!

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  1. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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  2. MARIS61

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    I anxiously await the rightwinger's here to demand justice and call for the immediate prosecution and exile of Newt.
     
  3. BLAZER PROPHET

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    Considering the part they played in bringing down the economy, I hope they can be suppressed this time.
     
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    LOL

    That's what happens when you don't read the link.
     
  5. bluefrog

    bluefrog Go Blazers, GO!

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    If Gingrich or Romney tried something like this the "lame-stream" media would be all over it.
     
  6. MARIS61

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    Gingrich did.

    Does nobody read linked articles anymore?

    Had the same thing been carried out by a worker for the now-defunct ACORN, Republicans --- and even Newt Gingrich --- would have called it massive "voter fraud." But the 1,500 acts of fraud, by Gingrich's own admission, were carried out by a worker hired by his campaign, so it seems the media have barely noticed it.

    Nonetheless, The BRAD BLOG has received confirmation from two different state agencies that the 1,500 alleged cases of ballot petition fraud said to have been carried out on behalf of the Gingrich campaign, in their unsuccessful attempt to qualify for the Republican primary ballot in Virginia, are now being carried out by the state Attorney General's office.

    In late December, after Gingrich had failed to turn in enough valid signatures to qualify for the Virginia primary ballot, he was caught on video tape telling a supporter in Iowa that the reason for the failure was due to a campaign worker who created 1,500 fraudulent signatures.

    "We turned in 11,100 --- we needed 10,000 --- 1,500 of them were by one guy who, frankly, committed fraud," Gingrich is seen and heard saying in video originally aired by CNN.

    Neither he nor his campaign, however, has made the name of the alleged "one guy" public, to our knowledge, despite the extraordinary number of fraudulent signatures created and turned in by that "one guy" in what an official at the Virginia State Board of Elections (SBE) described to us as "definitely an illegal act."

    News of the embarrassing criminal investigation is confirmed today, even as voters go to the polls for Florida's 2012 GOP Primary, where Gingrich is facing off against front-runner Mitt Romney who, ironically --- and uncomfortably enough for Republicans --- may also find himself the subject of a criminal voter fraud investigation in the not-too-distant future...

    Indeed, while neither ACORN, nor any of their hired workers have ever been found to have committed even a single instance of voter fraud, a handful of their workers --- almost all of whom were discovered and turned in to authorities by ACORN themselves --- did commit voter registration fraud by turning in fraudulently signed registration forms. There is no evidence that any of those fraudulent registrations has ever resulted in an actual vote being cast illegally in any election.

    Nonetheless, Republicans, lazy (or worse) members of the media, and even Gingrich himself, have all long described those acts of fraud against ACORN as "voter fraud" by the former community organization itself. The relentless, years-long disinformation campaign against ACORN was carried out by the GOP in retaliation for the group's perfectly legal registration campaign, which succeeded in signing up hundreds of thousands of legal, low- and middle-income voters (who happen to vote largely Democratic) to participate in their own democracy.

    ACORN had a much better ratio of valid registrations to fraudulent ones than Gingrich. 13% of Gingrich's signatures were bogus, while ACORN's error rate was around 1.5%, according to Project Vote. Most of the ACORN applications that were rejected were duplicates, not fraudulent ones.

    Speaking of actual voter fraud, let's not forget Mitt Romney's

    If pre-election polls hold true, while today's GOP Primary in the state of Florida may effectively knock out Gingrich from contention for the 2012 GOP Presidential nomination, the party's likely standard bearer, Mitt Romney, seems to have some actual voter fraud issues of his own.

    Charges concerning the former Massachusetts Governor's apparent voter fraud have largely been ignored by the media to date as well, just as the Republican Party would like them to.

    As originally highlighted by long-shot Republican Presidential candidate Fred Karger last summer, Romney had been registered to vote in the unfinished basement of his son's manse in Belmont, Massachusetts long after the former Governor and his wife had sold their own home there, and purchased two others --- one in California and another in neighboring New Hampshire.

    Despite testimony from local Belmont residents that neither he nor his wife had been seen in the town he was registered to vote in for years, Romney cast a ballot in the January 2010 special election for the U.S. Senate between Republican Scott Brown and Democrat Martha Coakley. However, it wasn't until July of 2010 that the Romneys once again purchased a small townhouse in MA in preparation for their Presidential run.

    Last week, Romney release his federal income tax forms stating his residence to be "Belmont, MA." However, as we noted at the time, his specific address was redacted, so it's impossible to know, based on that return, if he used the address at his son's house or his newly purchased townhouse in the same small town, as his residence for tax purposes that year.

    Notably, Romney failed to release his state income tax returns for 2010, nor any of them for years prior. A 2009 return showing his residence to be income-tax free New Hampshire would be damning evidence of voter fraud in the January 2010 election in Massachusetts.

    The Romney campaign has failed to respond to several of our queries on this matter seeking to find out whether or not Romney considered himself a resident of Massachusetts, or not, at the time he cast his vote in the January 2010 special election.

    At this time, it appears entirely possible that the likely 2012 Presidential nominee for the Republican Party, Mitt Romney, is, himself, a voter fraud criminal, even as his current alternative-of-the-moment, Newt Gingrich, faces a confirmed criminal felony investigation for some 1,500 acts of ballot petition fraud in his own home state of Virginia.
     
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  7. BLAZER PROPHET

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    TRUE! I was busy at work and took the poster's word for it. Now I won't go look at it for fear of looking even more idiotic.
     
  8. MARIS61

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    Each act of voter fraud in connection with a federal election is punishable by five years in prison and a $10000 fine, in addition to any state penalties.

    But apparently it's okay as long as you're the 1%, like Romney.
     
  9. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Are you bitter because people are rich? You must have some seriously socialistic views. Almost seems you are borderline communist (without the dictator of course ;) ).
     
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    That's an odd reply to my post which was about the (in)equal application and enforcement of our nation's election laws.

    If Mitt Romney was a known pedophile or serial killer would you view my call for his arrest and prosecution to be "bitterness"? Do you believe that a certain amount of wealth should put a person above his country's welfare?

    You do realize that without 100% accuracy and honesty a true Democracy does not exist?

    I rank voter fraud right alongside the assassination of a President as far as seriousness of the crime and it's effect on our Freedoms.

    I'm certainly not communist by any accurate definition of the word. I have a very nice home on a few gorgeous acres with riverfront and mountain views, my cars and rv and roomful of guitars and other toys are paid for. I consider myself "rich" and feel no bitterness toward myself.

    I am basically a capitalist who believes a capitalistic society cannot thrive without compassionate caring for it's weakest and most challenged citizens, and protections to preserve the country's environment, laws, and equal opportunity to succeed.

    How would you feel about Mitt Romney and his 1% crowd if they had all the money there is?

    They had all of it and every other American alive was flat broke without a job or income to feed and shelter their family?

    They owned America and all 300,000,000+ Americans starved to death or died from exposure over the course of a few weeks? That is an accurate extrapolation of the course we are currently traveling.
     
  11. Denny Crane

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    Where's the fraud?

    If ACORN (as the article claims) committed no fraud, then neither did Gingrich.

    My view is both are sinister.
     
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    It was all on your "1% comment". Regardless of what % they are; that generalized statement is troubling.

    If anyone breaks the law; they should pay. It doesn't matter if they are 1% or the 99% of others. I'm not even in the 1% margin; but I tip my hat that they got to that point. That's all part of being "American".

    As for my comment on you being "socialist" or "communist"; I am basing that on all the threads you post on your political views. I think you are one of the most "left wing" person I know. You may take that as a compliment though. ;)
     
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    Acorn employees committed registration fraud but were discovered and reported to authorities BY ACORN before votes were cast, Gingrich employee(s) committed voter fraud (since they actually voted/signed petition), and Romney PERSONALLY committed voter fraud by lying on his voter registration and casting illegal votes.

    Of the three (ACORN, Gingrich, Romney), only Romney appears personally guilty of actual and deliberate voter fraud.

    ACORN and Gingrich do not appear to have had knowledge of the offfenses committed by their employees.
     

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