Evidence that god exists

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  1. RR7

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    No, he was saying without science, not without non-theist scientists. Without science in general.
     
  2. magnifier661

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    Well that, I 100% agree on. Guess I misread it then.
     
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    My request was that we stop using the term "straw man" incorrectly. (And I was teasing here -- I didn't really think you were intentionally misrepresenting crow, just possibly misunderstanding what he was saying.)
     
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    Yeah I guess reading it on the iPhone doesn't paint the entire picture. :(
     
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    Many of those guys were burned at the stake as heretics.
     
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    That's actually a poor historical translation. It was actually that their CLOTHES were burned because of hairy tics. It's just that it was written about, and translated through four languages, and hairy tics became heretics.
     
  7. MARIS61

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    Most humans bring forth a lot of good to society throughout their lives in big ways and small ways.

    Not having a complete grasp on reality and not knowing everything there is to know (nobody knows everything and wouldn't that be boring if you did?) is something all humans will have in common for all eternity. It doesn't make them bad, or evil, or stupid, anymore than breathing air does.
     
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    9 pages and still no evidence.
     
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    I saw a pic of HCP's wife. If that's not evidence, what is? ;-)
     
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    And what does it have to do with abiogenesis and the origin of life?




    Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Yes I take that very literally. And oh please, what does inventing an iphone have to do with proving humans "evolved" from an ape-like ancestor? So because it's labeled under "science" it must be true right? Even though there's no hard evidence for it? Sorry, not all theories are created equally and there's a difference between creating an iphone and explaining how we got here and why.

    There are many proofs that point to there being a designer, and you've seen how they've all been attempted to be explained. The fine-tuning argument is countered by the awesome multiverse theory, because then our universe isn't that "special" in that case. You'd be surprised how biased people can be. Many people don't want God to exist, because then they'll be held accountable for their actions and can't live off the lusts that they desire. I've heard this admitted in secret first hand by people. They will attempt to give an attempt to naturalize any discovery made now and in the future because many rule out a supernatural explanation from the get-go.



    You're welcome. Hopefully you can study the historicity of the Bible. You may be surprised.
     
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    Haha, funny you should say that as it comes straight from the Bible and can be applied to you guys perfectly.
     
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    I imagine that was the intent.

    I think a verse involving pearls and swine might be more applicable.
     
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    Yup. That's us. Just a bunch of stupid pigs, who don't know the true value of calcium carbonate spheres. :pig:

    Anyway, thanks for at least recognizing my intentional use of the mustard seed parable.
     
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    Haha yeah!

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    oink *snort*
     
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    Haha ok you got me. Either way, it does apply well to you and crow, as well as the pearls before swine parable that Platypus kindly pointed out. Guess you don't know what you don't know.
     
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    See, the thing that makes it funny is that I think they apply perfectly TO YOU! How's that for irony!
     
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    Not really, considering I have truth on my side. A pretty powerful weapon to have :)
     
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    it's why scientists expect to find natural explanations for phenomena. they have had incredible success at it.

    there's no difference in the methodology. QM and common descent are both scientific consensus because those theories led to enough successful testbable predictions to convince anyone (who isn't brainwashed by propaganda).

    science doesn't claim design is an impossibility. as i said (twenty times) many scientists are theists. what you (falsely) perceive as bias isn't even against theism, only a literal interpretation of genesis.

    if people are so prone to bias, how do you know it's not a problem for you?

    science is a conspiracy !!
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    been there my whole life. only surprise is how poor the historicity actually is when you're objective about it, particularly the torah.
     
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    Ah, the rhetorical equivalent of "neener neener neener"... That's when we know that we are done here.
     

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