prop 8 overruled by 9th court

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

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    You did it when you argued that the segregation in gay marriage is about sexual preference rather than the more glaringly obvious difference of gender.
     
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    There's a big difference between pedophilia and homosexuality. There are adult men and women pedophiles that attack children of the opposite sex (they're "heterosexual").

    There's absolutely nothing about homosexuality that is related to pedophilia.
     
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    That's a leap of logic.

    Gay marriage is between man and man or woman and woman. There's even less of a biological difference in this case.
     
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    Except for pedophilia has a clear victim.
     
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    Except that they have been thought of as sexual perversions. I'm not saying they are even close to the same, but given time in a society, there will be groups that will push for it to become socially accepted. Pedophilia has been historically tolerated as being normal.
     
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    Correct.

    And there is a difference between a man and woman getting married vs. people of the same sex doing so, no matter what you say. Yet you seem to think that they are the same situation as you had argued earlier and nothing is different.

    You continued on this path of thinking with continued examples in which you disregarded a person's sex in different situations (i.e. men and women shared bathroom facilities, etc).
     
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    how is the marriage different?
     
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    I admit I don't know what makes a man love another man or a woman love another woman. It's none of my business. They're grown ups and they can and should be able to do whatever they want as long as there's no physical harm to one or the other.

    Shared bathrooms exist and there's no incidence of increased crime or other bad things because they exist. Physical differences between men and women simply don't mean anything in the examples you dredge up.
     
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    It is homosexual, instead of being heterosexual.
     
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    yes, and similarly, a biracial marriage is different. But it's still a marriage.
     
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    No, not similarly. Race and gender are two very different things, which is why segregation as an example is a bad one.
     
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    How about you consider why a gay couple would want to marry?

    Why would you want to marry? The answer to both questions is the same.
     
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    I have nothing against teh gheys, but whats next? robots and dogs? I mean, they're the same as pedophiles and dog fuckers. And morals are lowered.

    But I have nothing against them!
     
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    but they're different. and that difference shouldn't make marriage not allowed.
     
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    What about people born hermaphrodites, or super males, or any other manner of of conditions that obscure your genetically determined sex? I suppose you think that any of them getting married should be thought of as different as well.
     
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    That's fine. Like I said, I'm not against gay marriage. I'm just against likening it to racial segregation or saying that people against gay marriage and calling it a civil union are evil babykillers.
     
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    denny disagrees with you.
     
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    It's discrimination, period.
     
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    No, I agree with him.
     

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