Born Gay? Legit or not.

Keep in mind trip that I don't think most people that believe in evolution think there is some gay gene. I am replying to one that actually thinks this. It goes against the whole purpose of natural selection.

 

natural selection doesn't have a purpose

 

So would you consider being gay is just part of some randomness through evolution then? So possibly we may be extinct because we all will become gay and cannot reproduce?

 

I know a lesbian couple that just had a baby. In order for your scenario to take place, there could only be one sex. Otherwise, reproduction is totally possible.

 

Okay so the human race is a little different then? Animals like the penguin above would be extinct if they all decided to be gay? Maybe that's why the unicorn became extinct! We are on to something here!

 

Yeah I know a few gay couples that adopted or artificially impregnated themselves. But remember "natural selection" has no purpose. If this happened to the Polar Bear, they couldn't go to some medical treatment facility and artificially fertilize themselves now can they?

 

So he wasn't "Born Gay" then?

 

So Kingspeed was "born gay" but tried not to be gay? Personally, I don't think being gay has to do with anything genetic. I think every man and woman thinks about being gay because it's intriguing. Anyone that denies it is just fooling themselves. It's a choice and they either choose to be or not be gay. Frankly, I don't care as long as they are happy. I think it's laughable that people think they were "born gay". Sorry it doesn't fly with me.

In my belief I think people are "born sinners". And in God's eyes every sin is just as bad as the other one. In fact, I think I probably sin more than gay people. At least the gay people I know.

 

as a christian, shouldn't you at least put in an attempt to not sin? It seems strange to live like that, an, all is forgiven because I believe sort of shit, instead of actually trying to practice what is preached, so to speak.

I'm sure the gay community is happy to know that their sin of " choosing to be gay" is being trumped by your indiscretions.

 

Actually I talk very candidly with many of my gay friends. They know my belief and we have cool discussions about it.

And yeah I must strive not to be a "sinner" because I want a better relationship with God. When I say that I sin more than many gay people I know; it's the damn truth. I think many of my personal issues and lack of communication with God has a lot to do with my trouble with my own sin. So I don't judge "gay people" because I'm not without sin. I laugh at Christians that think they can judge gay people too. In God's eyes those Christians are just as bad as the sinners they are so quick to judge.

 

Judging in is a sin itself...so yes, some of my fellow chrisitians arent very christ like in that respect

 

Haven't read the thread, but I don't think it's anybody's business.

And other than a few insecure gays and insecure homophobes, I don't think anybody really cares.

 

Do you consider impotence a choice? If not, do you think the human race may possibly become extinct because we will all become impotent and be unable to reproduce?

Before I go further, I should clarify what I am not saying. I am not saying that homosexuality and impotence come about in the same way, biologically. I am also not comparing them as a condition (as some might be tempted to think that since impotence is generally perceived as an affliction or a system flaw, that I am saying homosexuality is also an affliction or a flaw...something I do not believe at all).

The point is, you cannot use the simplistic logic of "If something does not directly aid in procreation, then clearly it is not naturally occurring because, you know, natural selection."

There are recessive genes. There are both heritable and non-heritable traits that emerge in a minority of the species. "Evolution" is a simple concept but an extremely complicated process in the natural world that takes actual study to speak knowledgeably about. You cannot simply apply it at whim in casual conversation.

 

Hey this was a damn good post. Well written and thought out. I may not agree but you make a damn good point. Rep'd!

 

An idiot!