Orlando may do this deal

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  1. glazeduck

    glazeduck Well-Known Member

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    Throw in Orton and their completely unprotected 2013 1st Rd. Pick and it's a deal! (Works on ESPN's trade machine...)

    I'd prefer to NOT trade Wes if possible... He's not looking like the starting 2 that we thought he could be, but I think he's valuable as a backup/energy guy...
     
  2. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    There are teams with more than one terrible contract.
     
  3. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Like? Give me a team that will trade an asset and a high first for cap relief
     
  4. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Milwaukee have Bogut (3 years 12 mil per), Jackson (2 years 9.2 mil per) and Gooden (4 years 6.2 mil per).

    Detroit(Already used their amnesty): have Gordon (11 mil per 3 years), C Vill (7.5 mil for 3 years)

    Raptors have Calderon (2 years 9.7 mil), Bargnani ( 9.2 mil for 4 years), Amir Johnson (4 years 5.5 mil), Kleiza (4.6 mil for 3 years)

    Washington have Wall (5.5 mil for 3 years), Lewis (2 years 21 mil), Blatche (4 years 6.4 mil)

    Golden State have Lee (5 years 11 per), Ellis (3 years 11 per), Biedrins (3 years 9 per)

    All of those teams are lottery bound
     
  5. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    They aren't trading firsts WITH those players JUST to get rid of them. Holy crap.

    AND LOL at you including John FREAKING Wall, 2 years removed from being the number 1 pick. I know you're a homer Mags, but this is just absolutely ridiculous.

    Detroit hasn't used their amnesty either. They bought out Hamilton, didn't amnesty him.
     
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  6. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    That is my point as well
     
  7. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Woah dude you just asked what teams have high draft picks. I just gave you the teams.
     
  8. RR7

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    No, he asked which team would give up a high first and an asset for cap relief.
     
  9. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Wait a minute! I was asked which teams have high draft picks and insane contracts. I was just answering him. So I get picked on for it? Do you see me saying we make a deal for their pick? I said teams with "late first rounders". There is a huge difference!
     
  10. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I took it like teams that have terrible contracts and are lottery bound. Was I wrong?
     
  11. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Hey Mags, here's what you want to look for when it comes to teams possibly being willing to trade their picks.

    -Teams that are they capped out.
    -Teams drafting at the back of the order.
    -Teams that are a player or two away from competing
    -A cheapskate owner who doesn't want to pay the salary of a high pick when they've got a lot of other high salary?
    -A team that already has a lot of youth and wants to surround their current roster with some vets.
    -Teams with stupid impatient owners.
    -A bad draft.

    On the flipside here's the critieria for teams that are almost never willing to trade their picks, (unless it to swap a couple of spots)
    -Teams that are over-the-hill
    -Teams that need to rebuild
    -Teams that have a lot of needs
    -A strong draft

    Apply these criteria to the teams you're thinking about and maybe you'll be able to figure out what makes sense or not.
     
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    you said higher picks. And mentioned Milwaukee, who is in the lottery. Milwaukee isn't going to use their pick to move Bogut. That's laughable.
     
  13. BLAZER PROPHET

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    We have two ways to get into the lottery:

    1) Keep starting Failton

    2) Trade Nic (ain't gonna happen)
     
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    You ignored the part where he said which team would be willing to move thei rpick to remove one of those salaries. Wall? Seriously? Bargs was playing very good before his injury. Amir's not a bad contract. Detroit can amnesty one of their guys. Lewis has only a partially guaranteed deal next year. Bogut? no. GS doesn't necessarily have their pick this year, Utah does(top 7 protected). So they can not move theirs.
     
  15. Run BJM

    Run BJM Heavy lies the crown. Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Probably not a good idea to get tied up in Turk's contract, as others mentioned, however I completely agree with Mags that Portland needs to completely overhaul their rotation if they're building around LMA long term. You're doing LMA and the team no favors by surrounding him with guys who aren't good perimeter shooters. Hes perhaps the best post scorer in the league today, get him some fugging snipers to make teams pay for doubling or clogging the paint.

    Reddick is a good idea- good shooter and pretty solid defender. Perhaps I'm spoiled because I'm a GS fan but shooting isn't that difficult of a commodity to acquire in the NBA. I'm sure plenty of teams would swap Wes for a less dynamic but better shooting SG/SF. It doesn't necessarily have to be Wes that gets shipped out but Felton, Wes, and Wallace wouldn't be my ideal pieces to put around LaMarcus. Look at how the Magic and Mavs are constructed- tons of shooters surrounding a superstar player.

    As you all are far too aware, however, McMillan will only play a certain type of player. But even so just look at some of the guys who have been moved around lately- Brandon Rush, Shane Battier, Delonte West, etc. Role players who can play defense and will drain spot up 3's all day. Great teams a) develop these guys and b) stack their rotations with these kinds of role players.
     
  16. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    You think John Wall is an insane contract??? WHAT? (I'm assuming so, since you listed him)
     
  17. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Good post!
     
  18. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I think John Wall is a terrible player, so yeah I think he's insane. I wouldn't even want him either. He's that insane!
     
  19. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    It doesn't even matter if you think he's bad (he's not) because

    1.) He's on a rookie scale contract. Washington can decline his last two years. He could expire this year if they wanted.

    2.) He's not making nearly enough to be on an insane contract.

    3.) If Portland asks for Wall, you can bet your ass the Wiz ask for LMA and LMA only.
     
  20. BLAZER PROPHET

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    Maybe they'll take Crawful + our first round pick.
     

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