Salmons Deal Hits Snag

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Star/Philadelphia Daily News - All that supposedly stood in the way of the John Salmons trade to Toronto was for Andre Barrett to clear waivers. Barrett cleared waivers at 6:00 PM on Thursday, but none of the parties could confirm that the trade was complete."At this time, there is no trade to announce," wrote Billy King in an email.Joel Bell, agent for Salmons could not be reached.Word around the NBA on Thursday was that serious snags had developed in the transaction with the 76ers.It's unclear whether Salmons, a free agent, had second thoughts about joining the Raptors for a five-year, $23 million (all figures U.S.) contract or whether Toronto is working on a larger trade and needed the salary cap room or roster spot.Bryan Colangelo reportedly is juggling multiple trades.</div>Source: Philadelphia Daily News
     
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    interesting. I wonder if it's Salmons or Colangelo doing this. haha, probably BC.
     
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    There maybe be a bigger trade in the works to get the deal completed
     
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    Can somebody inform me why the Sixers are trading there best scorer off the bench for this bum?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Jul 21 2006, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Can somebody inform me why the Sixers are trading there best scorer off the bench for this bum?</div>this makes no sense to me. Salmons was a good scoring threat off the bench for the Sixers. He was inconsistent but when he was on, he could put up some numbers. This is stupid...
     
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    Aw man. I want the deal to be finalized. I wonder if he doesnt really want to play here after all, or not..
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Jul 21 2006, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Can somebody inform me why the Sixers are trading there best scorer off the bench for this bum?</div>Because he is a nightmare in the locker room... and he is inconsistent and stupid, but when he is on he is definitely on. Unfortunately, he is only on 1 out of every 7 or 8 games, and is absolutely HORRIBLE on the road.
     
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    he score 8 points in 25 mins which is bad and is a horrible rebounder for a guy 6'7 isnt a true point but i think he will do good where ver else he goes he started the season good and finished horrible
     
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    He's just one of those guys that needs a change of scenery. He produced 8 points in 25 minutes a night, as aftermath said, in his FOURTH year in the league. I'm sorry, but that's not good at all. Yeah, he was our best scorer off the bench, and one of our most versatile players, but that's not saying much when you take a look at our roster.
     
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    John Salmons is just an average player....Ok..someone had to say it.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>"Upon reviewing the basketball situation in Toronto, John decided it's not the best fit for him," a statement from Salmons' agent, Joel Bell, said."In a very stressful and tough decision, he decided he could not accept the opportunity to play for the Raptors, even though he was excited about the prospect of being in Toronto."Raptor officials, who thought they had Salmons on a five-year, $23 million (U.S.) deal as part of a sign-and-trade transaction for a 2007 second-round draft pick, were caught unaware when Salmons pulled out."I'm sorry it didn't work out, I wish him the best," Toronto president and general manager Bryan Colangelo said last night.</div> He's not going to be a Raptor, he turned down the deal. [​IMG] What a dumbass I must say. He had guaranteed money for 5 years at 23 mil. What other team is willing to pay that much? The Suns just got their backup pg in Banks.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jul 22 2006, 09:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>John Salmons is just an average player....Ok..someone had to say it.</div>an average player could do well in toronto because he would get more minutes.....he would be a good role player to come off of the bench and give them 10-12 points a night. that does more than you would think
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>an average player could do well in toronto because he would get more minutes.....he would be a good role player to come off of the bench and give them 10-12 points a night. that does more than you would think</div> That's still average though, nothing really special about it.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jul 22 2006, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's still average though, nothing really special about it.</div>You dont get it. A player coming off the bench averaging 10-12 points a game isnt average. Especially if he only does it in around 25 minutes. A guy to come off the bench and give you some instant offense is needed on any team. Its not like he would be taking a starting position or anything...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jul 22 2006, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You dont get it. A player coming off the bench averaging 10-12 points a game isnt average. Especially if he only does it in around 25 minutes. A guy to come off the bench and give you some instant offense is needed on any team. Its not like he would be taking a starting position or anything...</div> He's just a hustle player that will give you 8ppg off the bench..he isn't a good shooter either.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You dont get it. A player coming off the bench averaging 10-12 points a game isnt average. Especially if he only does it in around 25 minutes. A guy to come off the bench and give you some instant offense is needed on any team. Its not like he would be taking a starting position or anything...</div> He's just a role player playing his role. He's not a star player, he's just average. That's why he comes off the bench and has a specific role.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jul 22 2006, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's just a hustle player that will give you 8ppg off the bench..he isn't a good shooter either.</div>8 per game is like 10-12 in toronto. he would get more playing time and 10-12 off the bench is something that is under estimated in the game. Toronto is going to miss out on this guy. He isnt a great shooter but he isnt a bad one either.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jul 22 2006, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's just a role player playing his role. He's not a star player, he's just average. That's why he comes off the bench and has a specific role.</div>whoever said there was something wrong with being a role player....robert horry was a role player for the spurs and look what he did 2 years ago in the finals.....
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>whoever said there was something wrong with being a role player....robert horry was a role player for the spurs and look what he did 2 years ago in the finals.....</div> Huh? Did I say it was bad to be a role player? He's just a average player. Nothing wrong with it. Also, funny you bring up Robert Horry and you in quote said, "It wouldnt feel the same knowing that what you do to contribute doesnt make that big of an impact." So what makes Salmons so different that he isn't an average player like say Horry?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jul 22 2006, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Huh? Did I say it was bad to be a role player? He's just a average player. Nothing wrong with it. Also, funny you bring up Robert Horry and you in quote said, "It wouldnt feel the same knowing that what you do to contribute doesnt make that big of an impact." So what makes Salmons so different that he isn't an average player like say Horry?</div>go back to that quote and you will see that was directed towards when he was playing with the lakers and houston. not his impact on the spurs series. also, we are comparing him to karl malone....one of the best players of all time...I never said that Salmons was anything better than an average player, but an average player(or a good bench player) is something that each team needs in order to win a championship...or just to be a successful NBA franchise
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I never said that Salmons was anything better than an average player, but an average player(or a good bench player) is something that each team needs in order to win a championship...or just to be a successful NBA franchise</div> Of course you did. Or we wouldn't be having this conversation. BCB said he was a average player and you disagreed. And then I chime in and agree, and you said I don't get it. I don't get what your saying because I said he was a average player. And you just now agreed. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>go back to that quote and you will see that was directed towards when he was playing with the lakers and houston. not his impact on the spurs series. also, we are comparing him to karl malone....one of the best players of all time...</div> Doesn't matter, you were singling out Horry at the time and explaining his achievements. And said he was not a impactful role player. And it's not like he had zero impact with the Lakers or Rockets. But then you turn around and say role players can have a impact, ie Salmons. So it made no sense. Also, I'm willing to bet Salmons wouldn't have the type of impact Horry had in terms of his defense, and clutch shots.
     

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