<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Jul 22 2006, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Greg Oden: 33 ppg, 14 rpg, 3.6 bpg. He's going to be great. I love how he plays. He's not a skinny tall player, like Bosh or KG. He's got muscle, and will be like David Robinson.</div>Greg Oden isnt that skilled offensivley... The only way he gets close to averaging tha tmany ppg is if he gets 75 percent of them off of dunks. If Shaq cant average 33 a game, I dont see Greg Oden doing it. Now for the blocks and rebounds, I agree with completley. His rebounds possibly even higher...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 22 2006, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Al Jefferson is no Elton Brand. He has a pretty good jumper too, actually. He is not as good as Brand offensively. He wont get 25 and 10 that is just rediculous. He is not a very good offensive player.</div>Elton Brand didn't get his jumper until this year. I never compared Al to Elton. I was proving a point to say that you don't need a jumper to score in this league.
LeBron James- His Best: 34 ppg, 8 rpg, 6 apg- What you expect: LeBron will definitely average these numbers or something around that for years. Hes going to be a HOF no doubt.Al Jefferson- His Best: 24 ppg, 12 rpg, 2 apg- What you expect: I don't really know anything about Al J. but when I saw he averaged 42 PPG and 16 RPG in High School I freaked. If this guy reaches his full potential hes going to be a beastDwight Howard- His Best: 26 ppg, 15 rpg, 2 apg- What you expect: 26 Rebounds says a lot to what hes going to become in the league.Chris Paul- His Best: 22 ppg, 11 apg, and 5 rpg- What you expect: Next version of Jason Kidd. All I gotta say.Andrew Bogut- His Best: 22 ppg, 11 rpg, and 4 apg- What you expect: I think he will become a great player in the future. If Mags wasn't there I think he woulda gave Chris Paul some competition in the ROY race last year.Andrea Bargnani - His Best: 25 ppg, 8 rpg, and 2 apg- What you expect: If he reaches his full potential I see him as another version as Dirk but slight differences.Rudy Gay- His Best: 25 ppg, 8 rpg, and 5 apg- What you expect: Comparisons to Scottie Pippen have been pumping me up for this guy. Too bad Carroll Dawson is a idiot.Adam Morrison- His Best: 31 ppg, 7 rpg, and 2 apg- What you expect: If he reaches his full potential, I see him being the leader in PPG a few times.Andrew Bynum- His Best: 24 ppg, 10 rpg, 1. apg- What you expect: I also don't know much about Bynum. But i've seen him play a few times and im pretty excited to see what he can do in the future._______________________________________________Deron Williams- His Best: 19 PPG, 10 APG, 3 RPG- What you expect: If he stays with Utah and AK-47 leaves, I see a great leader for years to come. He has amazing coutvision and he knows pretty much where everyone is. I see a friendly rivalry between Chris Paul and himself....You left out Deron Williams and Marvin. >.>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dsounG @ Jul 23 2006, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Deron Williams- His Best: 25 PPG, 10 APG, 3 RPG- What you expect: If he stays with Utah and AK-47 leaves, I see a great leader for years to come. He has amazing coutvision and he knows pretty much where everyone is. I see a friendly rivalry between Chris Paul and himself.</div>There is no way that he will get up that high. Do you have any idea how hard it is to average 10 assists alone....and then to get 25 points on top of that? If you are going to say he will average 10 assits per game, then he is going to get tops 18 ppg. If you say he going to get 25 ppg, then he is going to get tops 7 or maybe 8 assists per game....
That is more realistic...but you do understand that those are basically Steve Nash's numbers when he won MVP right? Well i guess that is why we say if they reach their full potential...And just to say, if all of these players do what we say, the NBA is going to be amazing this next decade!
I don't see Deron Williams' full potential being that high. He wasn't a guy that had alot of upside. He will be solid, but 20/10 is going over board. That's perennial all-star numbers.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jul 23 2006, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't see Deron Williams' full potential being that high. He wasn't a guy that had alot of upside. He will be solid, but 20/10 is going over board. That's perennial all-star numbers.</div>If you are going to say that Deron Williams doesnt have a shot at 20/10 with him reaching his "full potential", then you cant say that Al Jefferson will have a shot at doing 25 and 12 like you said before...The thing is, we know that most of these guys stats arent going to be reached because not many guys reach their full potential.
33 and 14 is better numbers then shaq ever got so he wont be that good buddy he'll be like 28 and 13 at bestI also see raymond felton as a gary payton type of career
kingjamez: If we are judging a player over their high school performances then wouldnt Dejaun Wagner have been an all star by now averaging 30 ppg in the NBA?Im not going to evaluate him over high school performances. That makes no sense. To me, he doesnt seem like a player who will score alot of points. He is a good post player, but I doubt he will ever be a dominant scorer scoring 25 ppg in the League
dajuan got hurt but he could of been a gilbert arenas type he's said he's comin back for the 07/08 season he'll only be 24 then
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 23 2006, 02:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>kingjamez: If we are judging a player over their high school performances then wouldnt Dejaun Wagner have been an all star by now averaging 30 ppg in the NBA?Im not going to evaluate him over high school performances. That makes no sense. To me, he doesnt seem like a player who will score alot of points. He is a good post player, but I doubt he will ever be a dominant scorer scoring 25 ppg in the League </div>Since you don't watch Celtics games, thats the only way I can show you he has a great offensive feel for the game. And I cant believe you brought Dajuan Wagner into this he's played in 11 NBA games in the last 2 NBA seasons. He has a good set of post moves for a guy that came straight out of HS.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 23 2006, 01:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>kingjamez: If we are judging a player over their high school performances then wouldnt Dejaun Wagner have been an all star by now averaging 30 ppg in the NBA?Im not going to evaluate him over high school performances. That makes no sense. To me, he doesnt seem like a player who will score alot of points. He is a good post player, but I doubt he will ever be a dominant scorer scoring 25 ppg in the League </div>you can't base someone's potential on their stats right now, and that's exactly what you're doing with Al. You've obviously never seen him play. Maybe once or twice. bc if you had seen him enough, you'd know that his potential is sky high.
gary payton never got ten assists so deron wont either. WHo do you think would be better deron or felton also wjat do you think rashad mccants best year might be
LeBron James- His Best: 36/8/7- What you expect: 33/8/7- Comments: He reaches full potential, people don't take into count how hard he works. Al Jefferson- His Best: 20/10- What you expect: 17/10- Comments: He has not taken off like some thought, he's big/skilled...won't take much longer.Dwight Howard- His Best: 26/13- What you expect: 24/13- Comments: With his body and work ethic, nothing will stop him. Chris Paul- His Best: 25/11- What you expect: 22/10- Comments: Expect Gary Payton numbers from this guy.Andrew Bogut- His Best: 20/11- What you expect: 18/11- Comments: Never going to score a whole lot, but his impact cannot be seen with statistics.Andrea Bargnani - His Best: 25/10- What you expect: 20/9- Comments: A big question mark...but a huge talent. Rudy Gay- His Best: 23/8/2/2- What you expect: 18/8/2/2- Comments: Very comparable to Gerald Wallace...but more talent...hasen't scratched the surface. Adam Morrison- His Best: 25/6- What you expect: 22/6- Comments: He dominated college, he's too skilled not to play well in the NBA.
if Andrea Bargnani can get 9 or 10 rebounds and you only have dwight at 13 ur out of ur mind Andrea Bargnani is a horrible rebounder now i mean he'll improve but dirk wasnt to bad of a rebounder coming into the league dwight is 20 and already averages 12.5 boards he thinks 20 is possible he said he thinks sometime in his career he can get 18 rebounds. he is the closest thing since shaq we've seen once he develops a killer instinct watch outAndrea Bargnani could get 10 boards becuase coming out of college ppl said shaq offense was poor and wow were they wrong but 3.9 boards in the summer league isnt good rebounding to make me ever belive that he'll ever make it past 8 boards he will score alot tho!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (theaftermath770 @ Jul 23 2006, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>gary payton never got ten assists so deron wont either. WHo do you think would be better deron or felton also wjat do you think rashad mccants best year might be</div>Wow...Your basing Deron's career over something Gary didn't do? Holy sh*t your dumb.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jul 23 2006, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LeBron James- His Best: 36/8/7- What you expect: 33/8/7- Comments: He reaches full potential, people don't take into count how hard he works. Al Jefferson- His Best: 20/10- What you expect: 17/10- Comments: He has not taken off like some thought, he's big/skilled...won't take much longer.Dwight Howard- His Best: 26/13- What you expect: 24/13- Comments: With his body and work ethic, nothing will stop him. Chris Paul- His Best: 25/11- What you expect: 22/10- Comments: Expect Gary Payton numbers from this guy.Andrew Bogut- His Best: 20/11- What you expect: 18/11- Comments: Never going to score a whole lot, but his impact cannot be seen with statistics.Andrea Bargnani - His Best: 25/10- What you expect: 20/9- Comments: A big question mark...but a huge talent. Rudy Gay- His Best: 23/8/2/2- What you expect: 18/8/2/2- Comments: Very comparable to Gerald Wallace...but more talent...hasen't scratched the surface. Adam Morrison- His Best: 25/6- What you expect: 22/6- Comments: He dominated college, he's too skilled not to play well in the NBA.</div>Andrea is a crappy rebounder. I doubt he ever gets 10 a game. He got like 3 or 4 a game in Summer League. He wont get 10 a game unless he improves dramatically in that department.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 24 2006, 03:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Andrea is a crappy rebounder. I doubt he ever gets 10 a game. He got like 3 or 4 a game in Summer League. He wont get 10 a game unless he improves dramatically in that department.</div> He's 20 years old, 7'0"...at his best I think he can definatly grab 10 a game.
I dont think so, unless he improves his rebounding big time. The guy couldnt get more then 4 rebounds a game against summer league scrubs. It all depends if he improves his rebounding though, but as of now he is no where close to getting 10 boards a night..
