So what went wrong?

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  1. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    What went wrong? You started sitting courtside. So I guess I have Kingspeed to thank for finally getting Nate the hell out of here?
     
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    Even when were winning during the first 10 games, we did not look crisp. We ran but we did not have players who could pass and finish. We won because of home games.

    Batum, Wes, Felton and Wallace were all turnover machines on the fast break. It was frustrating to watch. Along with Crawford these were our wing players and they all made horrible unforced errors. You could blame it on coaching but there was little time to run basic drills.

    You have to have a half court game as well and Felton, Wallace and Camby were not impressive. As much as I liked Wallace, my first impressions while in Charlotte was correct, he was over rated. It is easy to fall in love with his hustle, but he is open outside for a reason.

    We need a few guys like Beno Udrih. A fundamentally sound player... Plays under control... Good knowledge of the game... Good passer... can hit a jumper off the dribble.
     
  3. blazerboy30

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    Don't you have some posts to write about how Joel is worth two LMAs?
     
  4. Ed O

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    The team was running when it was winning. And it was winning when it was running. Is there causation? I dunno. But there's correlation, at least.

    Indeed.

    Ed O.
     
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    It was nine deep of mediocrity... and Aldridge. I agree that the team was not that talented/good coming into the year.

    Ed O.
     
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    I thought the roster was better too, but ultimately, you have to admit that you're only as "good" as you play on the court. Proof is in the pudding.....(whatever the hell that means)
     
  7. Tince

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    I don't really agree with this assessment. We ran and lost plenty this year; I bet we've lost at least 5 games when scoring over 100 points and lot plenty more high tempo games where we didn't convert in transition. There is no doubt we're playing at a higher tempo, scoring more points, and losing more games this year.

    I know I'm in the minority, but I'll take 90ppg game and a 54-28 record over 100ppg game and a losing record.
     
  8. Ed O

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    I don't know where we can find the Pace of the team broken down over time, but the team is currently 16th out of 30... and they were in the top five for the first couple of weeks of the season, if I remember correctly. Assuming my memory is correct, that the team has gone from the top five (and first over all for a while) to the second half of the NBA since then shows how much the team has slowed down.

    I don't care one way or the other, but it seems pretty clear to me that the team has slowed down as it's lost more... although it might have slowed down because it was losing (and Nate's security blanket is slowing down) rather than vice versa.

    Ed O.
     
  9. RipCityInsider

    RipCityInsider Nice Season Blazers

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    Look how the "best roster" is playing without a healthy Roy. That should say enough considering Roy took a lesser roster further than it should during the McMillian era, correct?
     
  10. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Bottom line is, I was right the last few years that McMillan makes players look worse than they are, and a year from now, I'll have many slave followers agreeing that Aldridge is unchangeably weak. I am patient. You will all see the error of your ways, yet still you will deny me praise. I am unselfish. I am only here to help you.
     
  11. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    So far it looks like Nate.
     
  12. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    We all agree Roy was great. We disagree on whether this season is the fault of McMillan or the players. I say he had good enough players to be over .500 and some say no, it was a godawful roster.

    Just to fill you in on what the issue is.
     
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    The team lost by 67 at homes against the Bucks just a game ago. No Nate.

    I think this team has trouble with "caring" from game to game
     
  14. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    We lost Wallace, Camby, and have no real coach. With a normal, experienced, uptempo-loving coach, our earlier roster would have been about .600 and kept us happy. It is just not true to say that the coach was fine, and we should blame the evil malcontented good-for-nothing players, and blame the know-nothing management who traded for them. It was McMillan.
     
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    That's not true at all. There's plenty of guys he made look better than they are. Outlaw, Webster, Blake. Well maybe not plenty...

    My point is he definitely made those 3 guys look far better than they are.
     
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    So you want D'Antoni?
     
  17. Tince

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    Our PACE is up significantly which a majority seemed to want, yet when the results weren't great, we point the finger else where.

    Fast tempo and winning have zero statistical correlation in the NBA.
     
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    I'm not worried as much about pace as much as defense and hustle plays. We play with heart and dedication we will be good.
     
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    Totally agree!
     
  20. jlprk

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    Just the opposite on Webster. He ruined him. He emphasized defense instead of shooting confidence. D'Antoni is another extremist coach, only in the opposite direction. Just give me a normal coach who has both slowdown and fast break in his repertoire, and not just one arrow in his quiver.
     

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