Re: 2012 NBA Draft Prospects Yeah, I know. Beal's wingspan is listed at 6'7" currently. I don't expect that to change much when the ofiicial pre-draft measurements come out. And Wade is a freak of nature.
Re: 2012 NBA Draft Prospects Davis might stay? Probably not, but he says he hasn't decided yet. Would suck if we end up with two lotto picks and Davis isn't in the draft. The pressure on him to declare now when he is the odds on number 1 pick will be huge. When was the last presumed #1 pick that stayed in school?
Re: 2012 NBA Draft Prospects He's one inch shorter than Wade at most. That's not something you should be crying about.
Re: 2012 NBA Draft Prospects Who is crying? Draft express measurements have him at 6'3.5" in shoes. That is more than an inch shorter than Wade, and his wingspan is 3" shorter. Just because someone has a different opinion that you is no reason to say they are crying about something
Re: 2012 NBA Draft Prospects Measured out at the combine at 6' 3.75", 6' 5" in shoes. His point, though (I think) is that although Wade and Harden are under 6'5", they're freaks of nature, exceptions to what is necessary to succeed at SG. Shorter SG's like Marcus Thornton or Monta Ellis can't make it in the NBA.
Re: 2012 NBA Draft Prospects Wade measured taller barefoot than Beal is listed with shoes on so you know.
Re: 2012 NBA Draft Prospects Draft express has his height at 6' 3.5" in shoes? What combine numbers are you looking at? I'd like to see them
Re: 2012 NBA Draft Prospects I'm not trusting any measurements out there until the combine. Ive seen Beal measured at 6'4.75 in high school. All I know is he doesn't look short enough to not play sg in the pros.
Re: 2012 NBA Draft Prospects Curious how people here would rank the players...IMO the top 2 players are set... 1) A.Davis 2) T.Robinson after that, I think it really depends on what team is at #3..... M.Kidd-Gilchrist A.Drummond B.Beal those are likely the next 3 picks.... After that, is a slew of players, most likely POR would be picking 2 out of that group.... J.Sullinger H.Barnes J.McAdoo (if he declares) J.Lamb D.Lilliard T.Zeller P.Jones K.Marshall J.Henson T.Jones M.Leonard A.Rivers Doubtful POR gets a MKG, T-Rob, Drummond or Beal, though if they slipped of NJ pick fell just right (top 4-5 w\o moving to top 3), then there is a chance POR could get one of them, but IMO chances are slim. So POR is probably looking at 2 of the guys on the list above...Maybe they reach for a guy on the list below (like Wroten or Teague) After that you have a group of guys who could sneak in back of lotto, but most likely are mid-late 1st rounders.... T.Wroten R.White A.Moultrie M.Harkless T.Ross M.Teague D.Lamb Q.Miller T.Mitchell W.Barton J.Withey F.Melo J.Crowder D.Waiters J.Taylor T.Taylor E.Fournier
Re: 2012 NBA Draft Prospects I don't think Robinson is at all a clear cut #2--I think MKG and Drummond are just as likely to go at that spot. Beal's an interesting case, IMO. I don't think he has a shot to go #2, but I won't be surprised if he goes ahead of one of the three guys who might. Anyway, I think you're right about the top 5, although if Cody Zeller (whom you omitted) declares, he's got a shot to sneak up in there too.
Re: 2012 NBA Draft Prospects Was in a high school combine. Don't want to bother looking for it right now, and plus I don't 100% believe it. Just shows measurements aren't all accurate.
Re: 2012 NBA Draft Prospects Based on that list, I like Jeremy Lamb a lot, good scores, good size for SG... T.Zeller is a solid and underrated center...he looked good in tournament (so did Withey IMO)....Not sure he will be anything great, but serviceable starter is very likely.... Likely going forward POR has Aldridge at PF, Batum at SF, both solid....SG has Matthews and E-Will both quyestion marks as starters....PG, really nobody, though I think POR may look to address that in FA (D.Williams, Nash?, Dragic? Brooks?), hard to think a rookie PG would be counted on as a team looking to "rebuild on the fly" and get back to playoffs next year....PF has potentially Hickson, Freeland, Babbitt? as a b\u, nothing that screams they couldn't use another player there...center is a mess...Maybe Przybilla? Maybe you move Aldridge there, though he has stated he doesn't prefer that....Again, some FA options there as well, though nothing outstanding and likely costing more than they are worth.... IF BOS wanted to trade Rondo for a top 8 pick, I think you do it.....I don't think they will....Not sure there are any other PG out there that would be worth it, that would be available... Based on all that and that POR holds onto both picks AND more importantly who thier "realistic" targets are in FA...then they will certainly go big with one pick...preferably a banger\shot blocker....Sullinger, Zeller, Henson make sense, none of them thrill me, and given that I would say that POR would look that route with thier 2nd lotto pick...meaning Sullinger would likely be gone...A guy like Zeller or Henson, maybe Leonard (I know nothing about him)...and if those 3 are gone then who knows? PG or BPA?. If they keep the NJ pick and it is in the top 8, then they go BPA, and to me that is a guy like J.Lamb, H.Barnes, J.McAdoo...maybe a guy like Lillard rates that high? Certainly would fill PH hole....Lamb can play SG and would be a nice athletic fit next to Batum at SF...Barnes is kind of being undervalued IMO, he struggled but has a lot of talent... P.Jones is an enigma and his best case scenario reminds me of what LA has become, no guarantee he does that (I think LA was a better prospect\player). I see T.Jones as a PF in the NBA, and POR would likely have Hickson and\or Freeland already backing up\playing alongside Aldridge, not sure they need to go there (even if they let Hickson go). I don't know a lot about McAdoo, only saw him briefly, but scouts really like him..... Hopefully Beal drops, b\c that would be a great pickup for POR to take over that SG spot, I think Lamb could surprise there as well and would be my 2nd option...
Re: 2012 NBA Draft Prospects I don't see T. Zeller doing much in the NBA. Those post moves that worked at Duke don't look like NBA moves to me, he'll be very weak relative to other PF/Cs, not to mention lacking athleticism. Any C with scoring ability would murder him down low. Prospects need to have some real NBA level skills and I don't think any aspect of Zeller's game will be above average in the NBA. Withey on the other hand has a specialized skill that could translate in his shotblocking. He looked noticeably bigger than Anthony Davis so I'd say he's at least 6'11, probably 7'0. Great timing and it seems like he has good length. Needs to put on more weight but I could see him developing into a solid backup C or possibly fringe starter. Maybe a Chris Mihm type. That doesn't sound very sexy but who wouldn't take that from a late 1st or second round pick (if he comes out this season)? He could be a huge bust too, but like I said if I'm taking a flier on a guy with a late pick I'll take a 7'0 shotblocker and be glad if he turns into Robin Lopez.
