It's in PapaG's inner core to go out of his way to make enemies. Even when they are nice back to him, he is impelled to feel offended for the rest of his life and continue his daily attacks.. My post wasn't directed at you (I think I even wrote it without reading your post). It was a general challenge to find any evidence of an election changed because of individual (as opposed to government, Mafia, or the software company counting the votes) fraud. As I said, it would take a very organized, near-Mafia group, and would be impossible to keep secret from the government (so if it succeeded, it'd just be a front for the government).
1960 election. Chicago. Democrats were busted with voting machines in the trunks of their car during Gore's attempt to steal the 2000 election.
I haven't heard of your second example (link?). If you're compiling a list of elections which are irrelevant to the thread's issue of individual voters changing the outcome of elections, you should put 1972 at the head of your list. The Watergate burglars, composed entirely of CIA and FBI alumni, were caught at only one of their many burglaries.
http://legalinsurrection.com/2010/1...chines-out-of-the-trunk-in-state-senate-race/ (It worked so well in florida, they tried it in NY) http://www.campaignsandelections.com/print/176077/groundhog-day-revisited.thtml Bozo the Clown elected by 300 votes in Minnesota where bags of ballots were misplaced or lost. http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=94998&page=2#.T4bmVL9YuDQ Several days after presidential votes were tallied in what has become the hotbed of Florida’s post-election confusion, police in Palm Beach County confiscated a ballot-box mechanism from the car of a well-known local Democrat. The mechanism, called a “Votamatic,” did not contain any ballots. It’s a device used on some types of ballot boxes to punch votes through ballot cards, which are then tallied by computers. According to a police report filed at the Palm Beach County sheriff’s office and obtained by ABCNEWS, Irving Slosberg, 53, pulled the mechanism from his car and handed it over to police on Nov. 11 after denying to a county government employee that he had it.
None of those three would have been helped by voters presenting ID. The first (New York) and the third (Florida) appear to be a party possessing a spare voting machine. The second (Minnesota) was just the usual complaint about questioning 300 votes that happens in any recount.
No one claims in any of the three that unqualified voters voted. They (NY, FL) hint that votes were outright manufactured or that (MN) ballots with chads were counted in the recount but not the first count.
All three incidents suggest ballots were created, altered, or destroyed. In Fla, for example, taking a few hundred ballots and blindly punching Gore gains him votes. Any ballot for Bush would become invalid since both would be punched. Any ballot for Gore would still be for Gore.
How many democrats, and how many voting machines, were in this car? How many trunks did the car have? barfo
How would the bureaucratic cost of verifying ID at the ballot box (we haven't even gotten into how to look at picture ID in states like Washington, where all votes are mailed) have stopped the Florida incident from happening?
It wouldn't. However, there are news articles about people being registered in two counties or states that voted twice. Google for them yourself.
After Obama and progressives are done changing things... A man walks into the govt. food store. "I need toilet paper." The man behind the counter says, "it's Tuesday, all we have is potatoes." "you don't understand, I really need toilet paper. What am I going to do with a potato?" "all we got is potatoes." "seriously, I need to shit, and I want toilet paper!" "potato!" "I guess I'll take the potato.
While discussing obummers latest round of light and happiness, a Corvallis local began berating my co worker and I. After about three minuets of the usual bleating, I asked " Hey, You remember Bozo?' Thrown off he said "Ahh, why yes." "Clarabell ?" "Yeah..." "Binki?" "Yeah" When he started to give me a quizical look I replied "Just goes to show ya, always some fuckin clown."
The joke's fine. It has clowns (Obama and progressives) instead of a parrot and rabbi. It still works.
