No idea if this has been made yet but without a doubt a great comparison...the two best Small Forwards in the game IMO..
Lebron pretty easily for me imo. Lebron is the better scorer, rebounder, and passer. He is also the better driver. No one can stop him when he decides to attack. TMac is maybe the better shooter and defender, but I would still take Lebron for this.You can't use the playoffs to McGrady's advantage anymore. Lebron is 21 and has already led his team farther then McGrady ever did. Also, he almost beat the best team in basketball when his teammates were playing like sh*t except for maybe Anderson Varejao.
Well if Tmac is healthy this is a fair comparison.But you have to realize that in a few years LeBron will most likely be the best in the league and better than Kobe.Note that I am a Laker fan and that is a very hard thing to say.Now if you ask who would I choose between the two,I choose Bron because not only does he have skill and talent but is younger and can prosper.As of right now Tmac is better IMO when healthy but not for long.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 25 2006, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How is Tmac better when he is healthy? Care to elaborate?</div>Right now he is more clutch and a better shooter.LeBron has more power and passing ability but Tmac is a better scorer in general.
WTF are you talking about? TMac the better scorer? What the hell? First of all, Lebron scored 5-6 more ppg than a "healthy TMac" this year. He also shot a higher percentage than Tmac has ever shot. It is obvious that Lebron is unselfish too. If he weren't so unselfish he could score 35 ppg easily. He scores so dominantly when he decides to attack. No one can stop him.So how do you justify saying that Tmac is the better scorer? Honestly, Im not taking anything you say seriously ever again.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 25 2006, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>WTF are you talking about? TMac the better scorer? What the hell? First of all, Lebron scored 5-6 more ppg than a "healthy TMac" this year. He also shot a higher percentage than Tmac has ever shot. It is obvious that Lebron is unselfish too. If he weren't so unselfish he could score 35 ppg easily. He scores so dominantly when he decides to attack. No one can stop him.So how do you justify saying that Tmac is the better scorer? Honestly, Im not taking anything you say seriously ever again.</div>CB4, stop saying that you wont take people seriously because of a small matter of opinion. First of all, Lebron could not score 35 a game EASILY if he wasnt so unselfish. But yes, Lebron is a better scorer, passer, and rebounder than a healthy T-Mac. Lebron can get to the bucket more and he can sit on the 3 point line just as good as T-Mac too. The only things T-Mac have on Lebron is his clutchness and defense. Besides that, it all goes to Lebron. Everything Lebron does makes it look so easy.
That is 4 more ppg. I think he could do that if he didn't pass the ball downlow to Gooden or Z so often. He is unselfish, but if he hogged the ball every possession, he could score a ton of points.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 25 2006, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>WTF are you talking about? TMac the better scorer? What the hell? First of all, Lebron scored 5-6 more ppg than a "healthy TMac" this year. He also shot a higher percentage than Tmac has ever shot. It is obvious that Lebron is unselfish too. If he weren't so unselfish he could score 35 ppg easily. He scores so dominantly when he decides to attack. No one can stop him.So how do you justify saying that Tmac is the better scorer? Honestly, Im not taking anything you say seriously ever again.</div>Cb4 obviously you are misunderstanding my post.First of all I would rather have LeBron but like I said Tmac was the better scorer...because he can score in more ways.LeBron obviously is better under the basket than Tmac and his passing is undeniably better.Like Ballerman said all Tmac has is his cluthness and defense which LeBron does not really excell.
T-Mac is better scorer. He can do it in more ways, has bigger chance of having a huge 50pt game, and is better shooter.For this comparison, it's Bron. Better playmaker, better rebounder, more efficient. T-Mac is better defender, though.
WOW!OMG haha. You went back and edited the part where you said Tmac was the better scorer and general, and made it say the better shooter in general. It even says that you edited your post. Nice try, but you're not out of this one yet..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Jul 25 2006, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>T-Mac is better scorer. He can do it in more ways, has bigger chance of having a huge 50pt game, and is better shooter.For this comparison, it's Bron. Better playmaker, better rebounder, more efficient. T-Mac is better defender, though.</div>Ok, than can you explain to me why Lebron averages more points than T-Mac and a better field goal percentage?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Jul 25 2006, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>T-Mac is better scorer. He can do it in more ways, has bigger chance of having a huge 50pt game, and is better shooter.For this comparison, it's Bron. Better playmaker, better rebounder, more efficient. T-Mac is better defender, though.</div>What? Because he can shoot he is the better scorer? Lebron scores 6 more ppg then a healthy 04-05 Tmac, and also way on better percentages. It's pretty obvious that Lebron is the better scorer here.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 25 2006, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>WOW!OMG haha. You went back and edited the part where you said Tmac was the better scorer and general, and made it say the better shooter in general. It even says that you edited your post. Nice try, but you're not out of this one yet..</div>Well,I changed it back since you noticed but that is what I meant and I tought I posted scorer but I said shooter....I still stand by my statement.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jul 25 2006, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ok, than can you explain to me why Lebron averages more points than T-Mac and a better field goal percentage?</div>T-Mac was hurt last year. He also plays with Yao. In 2004-2005, for 1st month T-Mac was only averaging like 16PPG, getting used to team. When he got used to it, he averaged over 28PPG for rest of season on ebtter FG %. If you want more comparable stats, look back when he was the only star player on his team like LeBron is. he averaged 32PPG on 46% shooting, and had 2 scoring titles in a row.CB4- T-Mac was terrible the first month or so as a Rocket. After that he was the best swingman in the league. As I said above, look to when he was on magic where he didn't have to share spotlight with Yao and had to carry team like Lebron...his numbers were comparable to Bron's. And he did it in an NBA where scoring was way down (4 players had 29PPG or better this season, T-Mac held a scoring title one year with only 28PPG).
I dont understand why him winning the scoring title with 28 PPG is a good thing....It just means that there are better scorers in the game now. Lebron wasnt there yet, Kobe was still with Shaq, and that was one of the few years for that era were AI didnt win it.Lebron is a better scorer flat out. He can get to the basket better and he is almost as good from the 3 point line if not just as good. Also, Lebron gets more APG so that means that he isnt as selfish.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jul 25 2006, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I dont understand why him winning the scoring title with 28 PPG is a good thing....It just means that there are better scorers in the game now. Lebron wasnt there yet, Kobe was still with Shaq, and that was one of the few years for that era were AI didnt win it.Lebron is a better scorer flat out. He can get to the basket better and he is almost as good from the 3 point line if not just as good. Also, Lebron gets more APG so that means that he isnt as selfish.</div>It means that scoring was down that year (along with last year). With new rules in place, it is getting easier and easier to score. And Bron isn't anywhere near T-Mac when it comes to shooting. Not even close. T-Mac might not be quite as efficient (same with Kobe, who is also a better scorer), but he can scor ein many more ways. The efficiency is down because most of Bron's shots come off driving. And that is fine, except when he plays a team like the Pistons that shut his driving down. He averaged like 26PPG on 44% shooting against them. That is where T-Mac's versatility becomes a factor. He is the FAR better shooter (his % is down because most of his shots are jumpshots rather than driving to basket, along with sometimes taking the occasional 30ft fadeaway), and he is also a good driver. I am not arguing Bron being the better player, just scorer. And APG have nothing to do with you being more selfish, that is more of a sign of being a better playmaker.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Jul 25 2006, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It means that scoring was down that year (along with last year). With new rules in place, it is getting easier and easier to score. And Bron isn't anywhere near T-Mac when it comes to shooting. Not even close. T-Mac might not be quite as efficient (same with Kobe, who is also a better scorer), but he can scor ein many more ways. The efficiency is down because most of Bron's shots come off driving. And that is fine, except when he plays a team like the Pistons that shut his driving down. He averaged like 26PPG on 44% shooting against them. That is where T-Mac's versatility becomes a factor. He is the FAR better shooter (his % is down because most of his shots are jumpshots rather than driving to basket, along with sometimes taking the occasional 30ft fadeaway), and he is also a good driver. I am not arguing Bron being the better player, just scorer. And APG have nothing to do with you being more selfish, that is more of a sign of being a better playmaker.</div>So you are telling me that if Tracy is fully healthy this upcoming season, he will average more point than Lebron James? I dont care if Lebron gets more of his points off of layups, that IS part of scoring isnt it? And Tracy is not a FAR better shooter than Lebron. If anything, he is just a little bit better. Tracy over his career is a 34% 3 point shooter and Lebron is a career 32% 3 point shooter. Since when did that become a big difference? And then you take 2 point field goals and Lebron shoots 46% and Tracy shoots 44%. So to me, these guys seem pretty even shooting wise.
2pt FG's also counts layups. T-Mac is the far better shooter. He doesn't have the driving ability of Bron, so he doesn't get wide open 3's Bron gets. T-Mac consistently has to take horrificly difficult fadeaway 3's (makes them, too). I am not saying anything about next season, as T-Mac has Yao on his team, who demands the ball to get his points, most of which on post up moves. Bron has to deal with Z, where Z gets his points off of amazing bron passes. But I will say this: When T-Mac was in a situation like the one Bron is in with the Cavs, he was the best scorer in the league. Right now Kobe is the best scorer in the league, and because AI and Bron get more PPG due to them being on fairly average teams with no player to defer to doesn't mean they are better scorers than Mac.
