I've got a good job. The best job I've ever had. I'm not a good corporate slave, and golden handcuffs are a turn-off. But, if there are magic beans that will pay for 50% of my health insurance, I'll grow some. Where are they?
I'm not saying they're all over. I just was responding to your assertion that those jobs don't exist, and that I obviously have never worked for a small company. That's all. Your post that I responded to, you had some very definitive words in there. "Nobody" and "never"?? Well, your use of "nobody" and "never" were destroyed.
I lived with one for a year, and have 6 different relatives that work as FF in OR. All very well paid. All often go to work and return home without having left the station on a single call.
Where did I say I was referring to the one article. I made a comment about your personality or schtick, IN GENERAL, you responded, and I responded.
FYI.... I'd argue I have more first-hand knowledge of workers in all fields than you. I may be right, I may not be. But you get a lot of insight on what people make in various fields when you literally see lord-knows-how-many W-2's, company records, etc every single year. It doesn't make me any wiser on the subject than someone who simply relies on reports scattered on the internet. As I said before, I simply rely on what I know first-hand, rather than relying on reports that I have no idea how they were prepared, what agendas there were behind them, etc. Call me a cynic, because years of statistics classes has really left me underwhelmed by a lot of statistical research/reports on the internet.
Small businesses are a part of the private sector. A very big part of it, actually. A poster claimed he'd never heard of anyone paying for their own health insurance completely in the private sector. I answered it. 42,000,000 workers in the private sector work for companies with <100 employees. http://www.census.gov/epcd/susb/latest/us/US--.HTM Here is the breakdown for Oregon. http://www.census.gov//epcd/susb/2008/or/OR--.HTM If we're just going to count large companies in the private sector, does that mean I can stop paying taxes to support the PERS freeloaders? I mean, if my work doesn't count, why should I have to pay taxes to support BlazingGiants' large family on the public dole?
Another perk of being a firefighter: Wife swap! And I don't mean the TV show. They're a crazy bunch of people.
I have to point out the irony of the poster doggedly defending public employees haranguing a member of the private sector that pays for his family's lifestyle. Keep it up. This is good stuff, and it's going to be a big thing come November.
I didn't say, nor did anyone else, that we SHOULDN'T count small companies. You said the private sector has to pay fully for insurance. BG said he never had, nor had anyone he ever talked to, and I said the same is all. That a lot of private companies do pay more than 50% of health insurance.
yes, i think teachers and firefighters are good, therefore, i hate america i hope romney comes in and crushes those teachers and firefighters, im gonna vote for him twice
Portland workers make more than those in the private sector in terms of median salary. http://wweek.com/portland/article-17969-public_paydays.html
How am I doggedly defending public employees? Explain to me? I just was bashing firefighters. I just know for a fact that several sectors of public employees make far less than their private counterparts. I never said "all". I never made radical claims. For the record, this thread is about you claiming that PERS is completely to blame for the tuition issues. You got exposed as being incorrect, and rather than accepting your point of view as incorrect, you went down a whole new tangent. Now that is funny, ironic, and downright entertaining. Which plays into my earlier point that you have a stance, and you stick with it, whether you're proven wrong or right. And then you find whatever you can to try to back your point. But get this.... PERS isn't the sole thing causing the tuition problem. As for some irony you see... I have a good life, no complaints about it. And I've earned everything I have. I don't receive handouts or bailouts. I work in the private sector. This wasn't even the topic of discussion. You know my original point (that PERS isn't the sole reason for the tuition issue). Just admit your original claim was incorrect, or exaggerated, and that closes the case.
Salary plus paid benefits = total compensation from taxpayers. 12 first-grade teachers making over $100k in compensation from taxpayers. I couldn't find Kinder data, but here is 1st grade date for PPS. http://oregoncapitolnews.com/govdoc...ame=&like-last_name=&total=&campaign=1&page=1
Give PapaG a minute. He'll find an article on it. There will be at least 1 teacher making $100K. But it'll fail to mention that the teacher has been teaching 30years, and there are extenuating circumstances also involved, and that $100K includes all benefits.
PERS is largely to blame for tuition increases, school closings, and other failures in our educational system.
