Can I Get an Amen??

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  1. 3RA1N1AC

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    whats ridiculous? teachers and firefighters are ruining america! :lol:
     
  2. Natebishop3

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    I think Obama is a lousy president..... and I still think he's going to win. Romney doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell.

    1. He's a Mormon.

    2. He's white.

    3. His name is Willard.
     
  3. PapaG

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    Can I also point out that a lot of private sector workers don't have the extra money to spend on a CPA doing their taxes?
     
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    And I'll be you the 13 teachers right at $100K have put in 25+ years each.

    Considering how many teachers there are in the district, that's not very many making that much. And what is the annualized other?

    And if the annualized salary is $70K, does that mean they really only make $52,500 - $56,000? When we use the term "annualized," it usually means you're taking what an employee makes over his/her service period (9-10 months for teachers) to arrive at compensation for the entire year.
     
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    I would argue there's more people in the private sector that pay for CPA's than public employees. If you're in the private sector, you're more likely to be a contract employee or own your own business. Therefore, you're more likely to need a CPA, because there is a lot more difficulty surrounding those, than the simple W-2 wage earner.
     
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    No sources, but the fact that public facilities have had to cut many lower paying service jobs (think janitors) to the lowest bidder, not only does that drive the median public salary up, it drives the median private salary down. So your stats are helped by the fact that they are cutting costs. Similarly, there are no public fast food/retail//other low paying service type jobs so the the median salary SHOULD be higher.
     
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    When I google topics that would help explain the cause of rising tuition, I see a lot of mention of spending on administration (in large part due to the Federal government requiring certain and specific reporting if the institution wants Federal funds), an increase in student support services, inflation, Baumol's cost disease (which can be tied to inflation), etc.

    Nobody knows the real cause, and every article says there's a lot of debate, but that one thing is for certain: the cost of everything is increasing, and that the entire financial system is out of balance somewhere - but nobody knows where the imbalance occurs - EXCEPT for PapaG.

    PapaG in 2012!!
     
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    I love it. For the first time in US history there is a black president. Now, a white person claims it is a disadvantage to be white when running for presidency, lol.

    So was it a disadvantage being black for the centuries this country has only seen a white male president?
     
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    I find public employees seem more bitter about their jobs than private sector employees. Makes me beleive a public sector job is not all that desireable (PERS or no PERS). Of course there could be many reasons (like public employees whine a lot more or my small sample size), but I've got my theory and sticking to it. :)
     
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    Portland State, for example, is a piece of shit organization with a bunch of money grubbers in charge. There was an article in the school newspaper a year ago about how the school had over $100 million squirreled away, even though they were raising tuition and asking the staff for their support in cutbacks. What a joke.

    I understand profiteering in business, but not in public education. The school rapes the students on tuition, parking, housing, and books. Attendance is at an all-time high and yet tuition is going up. Funny thing, tuition is going up, yet they aren't hiring more teachers or creating more space. My classes are above capacity in the rooms and are violating the fire code. We have students crammed in the aisles and along the back wall. How am I supposed to learn if there isn't even a place to sit for a two hour class that I paid good money for? The administrators are lining their own pockets and building more housing so they can make more money. All so I can go to school and get a piece of paper that doesn't even guarantee me a job in this economy.

    :sigh:
     
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    And that, Sir, is why I went to college when I did, and finished when I did. I had some opportunities that would have taken me away from school, and probably delayed my finish by a year or two. The tuition increase that has happened at PSU in the years after I left are about the only reason I don't regret not exploring my other opportunities.
     
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    There was another thread on this, but graduating through correspondance classes is a big wave and the days of a big tution college experience are becoming less and less popular.

    The reality is someone can get a degree from a UoO or OSU without really attending or paying those high tuition classes. I'm sure this is possible with other colleges too, but I do know poeple getting degrees from UoO and OSU through correspondence classes.

    It sad, because I think the experience of being in an academic college environment is very valuable. But when you balance out teh experience vs. 100K in debt, the cheap degree is the way to go, IMO.
     
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    This.

    Really, the education helps, obviously. But more than anything, it's about getting your foot into the door, and/or, who you know. Then, you just have to take advantage of the opportunity you've been granted.
     
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    Well stated.
     
  15. Natebishop3

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    Do you hear that sound? It's the joke whizzing over your head ;)
     
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    There are some of us who actually agreed with the post, even if it was (obviously) intended as joke.
     
  17. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I use humor to get my point across. I legitimately do not think that Willard has a shot at the Presidency though :grin:
     
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    Thats just the way the cookie crumbles, brother. I never got my college degree and in 5 years will be making close to $100,000.

    You don't have to go to college to be successful. No reason to be bitter about it.
     
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    Who said I'm bitter about it?

    Thanks for telling me how much money you make, I guess.
     
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    Your bitter. You tried to bash me for never going to college in one of your past manic episodes.
     

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