Harrison Barnes v. Martell Webster

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  1. Reep

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    I'm not seeing the difference here. Is there anyone who watched him a lot who can tell me what the difference is? They both appear to be one-dimensional, NBA body SF's with sweat strokes who have limited handles. Since he keeps showing up in the mocks at 6, I'm trying to understand why.
     
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    Its a valid comparison. I'd say Barnes has a better mid-range game. Both look like fools when they try and put the ball on the floor and attack the basket.
     
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    Harrison Barnes hasn't had a really impressive workout that makes Paul Allen do stupid things with his draft picks... yet.
     
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    Webster was drafted #6. Barnes is projected #6. That's the REAL comparison.
     
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    I didn't realize Barnes was a shooter. I thought he was a little of this and a little of that. Martell came out with just a supposed sweet stroke.
     
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    Barnes has much better skills at putting the ball on the floor. Martell got drafted by Paul Allen because he made a zillion 3-pt shots in a row in a work out.

    I still don't like Barnes, though, as a potential draft pick. At least not at #6.
     
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    The biggest difference being that Martell never went to college or competed against players on that level.
     
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    ^ Good point.
     
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    Barnes his supposed to have a high BBall IQ but not Martells athleticism.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Sounds like a recipe for disaster either way.
     
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    since when is having a high Bball IQ a recipe for disaster? Is coming from one of the top programs in the country a bad thing too?

    Martell's problems in the NBA have to do with being weak mentally (too excitable + lack of focus) and having zero handle. Genius GM John Nash famously overruled his scouts and the general consensus among the Blazer brass to select him over Al Jefferson based on him draining jumpers over two guys under 6'2.

    What I like about Barnes is that he's got more then a sweet stroke going for him, he's a scorer who acts like he's done it before when he gets on a roll. Like a lot of players he's got similar physical dimensions to MW, but I think he'll be a much better pro

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    Like a thread started by KingSpeed!
     
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    martell is much more attractive, for starters
     
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    So you've got teh ghey feverz?

    That hair he had earlier this year was ridiculous and oh-so-hideous.
     
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    I liked his mohawk!
     
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    How could that be? They weren't in the same draft. You seem to be mixing up Martell Webster facts with Sebastian Telfair facts.
     
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    That, and also Telfair never drained outside shots over anyone in any work out.

    Makes for a good story I guess, though. How about taking Webster over Chris Paul, STOMP? Isn't that more accurate?
     
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    It's probably more accurate than who you blame.

     
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    Going into his freshman year at college, he was projected to be the number one pick in the 2011 NBA Draft, I believe. Then he played games and didn't live up to the hype.
     
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    The trouble is, under-athletic guys with "high basketball IQ" (however you want to measure that) rarely have anything other than role-player or decent starter potential -- their ceiling is usually capped.

    And for all of Barnes "IQ" he's awfully one dimensional.
     
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