Tyson Chandler DPOY

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--t...f-year.html;_ylt=Avnia5f8fr.N7v_yQb9jI9.8vLYF

    New York Knicks center Tyson Chandler has won the NBA's Defensive Player of the Year award, a league source told Yahoo! Sports.

    The Knicks plan to make the announcement official Thursday at their practice facility. Chandler will receive the award Thursday night prior to Game 3 between the Knicks and Miami Heat.

    Chandler averaged 11.3 points, 9.9 rebounds and 1.4 blocks in his first season with the Knicks. He ends Dwight Howard's streak of winning the award at three.
     
  2. kukoc4ever

    kukoc4ever Let's win a ring! Staff Member Moderator

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    Well, 2 of the 3 Cs have won major NBA awards in their careers.

    I think its safe to say that its going to remain 2 out of 3 though!
     
  3. Denny Crane

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    I like Noah better, still. He's maybe a bit shorter and slightly less a defender, but he gets his share of blocks and rebounds AND has a much better offensive game.
     
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    Agreed. And I've always thought Tyson is something of a mental pygmy.
     
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    Congrats to Chandler. He eventually grew up, worked hard and made himself into a legit NBA center.

    Don't know about DPOY though...didn't know that Howard could lose the award just by being a goofy douche.
     
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    If Howard is DPOY, Chandler is #2, eh?

    And Howard should have won DOPY.
     
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    I still maintain that none of the 3 C's were really NBA ready when they were with the Bulls despite flashes of potential. Tyson and Jamal worked their butts off and have developed into significant NBA threats. DPOY is a huge honor for Chandler and Crawford's final acceptance of being a sixth man was a huge step in the right direction for him. Jabba the Ed still gobbles sticks of butter like they were popsicles. Like Brando in On the Waterfront...he couda been a condendah.

    Of course mentioning Marlon Brando and butter in the same sentence conjures some nasty Last Tango in Paris images...but (no pun intended) enough about that.
     
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    I'll buy your point for Crawford. Chandler and Eddy were pretty damn good by the very end of their stays with the Bulls. By that time Curry had led the league in fg% (was it twice) and Chandler was putting up amazing numbers, at least when he wasn't injured. Chandler was good; Reinsdorf thought Ben Wallace would be better. He was incorrect.

    As to the question of Chandler winning defensive player of the year, I agree with the rest of you here. It's a good narrative considering the Mavs championship last season. The award should have gone to Howard; and if not Howard then Avery Bradley; and if not Bradley then Ibaka. Chandler was further down my list.
     
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    I think JCraw would have been better served honing his skills at Michigan for one more year and spent a long time playing catch up. Chandler might have been a reasonable prep to pro but he came into a system that wasn't geared to developing him. A year or two of college ball would have progressed his career much faster -- I don't recall where he was leaning but I'm assuming Pac 10. In any event he wasn't the most savvy guy around but he had a skillset because he had focused on basketball all his life.

    Curry is the most frustrating of the 3 because I don't think Curry ever loved basketball and therefore didn't really learn the nuts and bolts of the game. He had incredible agility for a 300 pound big man. He could reportedly do a standing back flip. He had quick feet but didn't know where to put them. He had soft hands but no finesse or shot, no passing ability, subpar rebounding on both sides of the floor for a man his size and just a general lack of basketball knowledge regarding where he was supposed to be on the court. A year or two of college might have helped him become the star he could have been but as it is he never really learned and its basically cost him his career at this point. He did increase his scoring every year he was a Bull and for the next season or 2 as a Knick. I attribute that to sheer size and unlike many other 300 pounders not being a complete uncoordinated oaf. Now he's played what -- 20 games in 3 years? 300 pounds was a herd of cow's butter ago.

    I agree Ben Wallace was an abomination as a Bull but a $60M deal for Curry doesn't seem like it would have panned out either. His gobbling diet pills didn't help the situation and I admit the franchise freak out in Heartgate wasn't helpful either. His scoring increased on raw talent but a man that agile with that size who has an effective range of about 18" from the basket and relying on nothing but dunks and putbacks shot about 50%? 50% is great for a guard but for a guy who dunks and not much more?

    The other conundrum about EC is he was apparently considering DePaul if he had gone to college which might not have been the best choice for developing him as a big man unless you wanted to make a darker skinned and heavier Dave Corzine.

    In any event, I think Eddy could have been the next coming of Shaq if he had developed more basketball skills but he didn't and if he had gone to a D1 NCAA program with tools in place for developing a big man he could have been an allstar. The Bulls also failed by not recognizing that a kid who is a project needs to be developed. The end result is Eddy is still in the league but he's grabbing a whole lot of bench and its a shame. He wasn't NBA ready and for reasons partly his fault and partly not he didn't have the same success learning on the job that Chandler and Crawford eventually did.

    And once again, congrats to Jamal and Tyson for sticking with it and learning the game on the fly. Its paid off well for them.
     
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    For most teams, I'd take a healthy Chandler over a healthy Noah. And it's not so obvious who is healthier anymore. Noah wasn't right in the playoffs last year and is obviously out this year. For the Bulls, without a PF that can consistently make an offensive play, maybe Noah is better. But he wasn't making plays against Miami last year. Again, maybe that was health.

    He seems way past that at this point.
     
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