How do I hide behind a message board when I encourage you to post my name and have already posted pictures.
I don't think Greg had much trust in the organization at this point, considering this excerpt from the article: It seems obvious to say there was something about the Blazers that Greg didn't trust. Sure he could have went and talked to management, but I don't think it accomplishes much, especially if he doesn't trust them in the first place.
Are you trying to get ignored by PG? I mean, if you come at him with logic, he gets flustered and then puts you on ignore.
I found this funny http://sportstwo.com/threads/212818-Whiny-Little-Babies-with-No-Sense-of-Humor-on-This-Board
And the whole hated being in Portland but is also an extremely quiet/introverted guy still doesn't add up to me. It's more like he wasn't living up to the hype and he went into a shell because he's extremely sensitive.
Yeah, I read all that. All of this has been re-hashed over and over. But I'll assume you got lost in the derailment. The article talks about Greg's mistrust, but Greg was already insecure (and was when we drafted him), had a drinking problem, etc..... so there's just a lot of conjecture and unknown variables at this point. And the fact we've all wished him well and sent him on his way (even though he got more out of us than we got from him) and he's still badmouthing us? Tells me he's still insecure and paranoid.
Haha. I know, right? Hypocrisy at its finest. Between that and him all over STOMP for ignoring him. Awesome!
That was in direct response to a westnob thread about misogynists on this board. He even laughed about it. Context is key. Thanks for sharing it, though. I'm sure you'll fit right in with the other superfriends at the Hall of Justice.
Now that I totally agree with. I honestly believe it's a total maturity thing. That's not a knock on him - I just don't think he was ready to step up and be a man (we all had friends who took much longer to really grow up and get comfortable with themselves as an adult - that's all I'm saying). And he didn't have someone to standby and lean on since he wasn't around the team as much (due to injuries).
I'll cut this discussion short then since it's probably already been talked about, but who is more paranoid Greg Oden Paul Allen/Larry Miller/Kolde
Making a Ben Davis reference isn't logic. It was unnecessary, and you did it because you were frustrated. Hey, I've actually enjoyed debating you at times, but something's obvious bothering you the past week or two. Have fun flexing your quads with the rest of the funky bunch.
As a non-Portland fan I can see both sides of the argument. On the one hand Oden does seem to be making excuses, being classless in bashing the city even if he did have a shitty experience, and for all the crap the organization is getting you don't see similar issues in other players PDX has drafted and developed in Aldridge and Roy (who also dealt with awful injuries). I don't think management neglected him or his development in any way. On the other hand he came into the league as an 18/19 year old and immediately stepped into a situation where fans and media were declaring championships for Portland from day one. That's a lot of pressure to deal with as such a young person. I tend to think there was nothing really wrong with him mentally when he was drafted but it festered over time as his body failed him and he had no control over fulfilling his own hopes and dreams and the championship dreams of the fans. I think a lot of the animosity toward him is partly jealousy because Oden was such a failure and Durant has gone on to be so good and OKC is the team that everyone expected Portland to be with Roy/LMA/Oden. Hes being classless and looking like an excuse maker, but the guy seems like hes probably been struggling with clinical depression for most of his NBA career. Hes now admitting he is/was an alcoholic. Many of his problems are self induced but I still feel sympathy for him because so much pressure was placed on him at such a young age and he had no control over his body giving out. I'm 22 and I look back on myself at 18/19 and think about how incapable I would have been in coping with that kind of a situation. Its easy to call him mentally weak or a big baby or whatever some of you are saying, but he really was quite young when his career took a nosedive. We're not talking about Rudy Fernandez here either- a guy many of you pegged as a future top 5 SG. He was the #1 pick, he was the man who would get PDX multiple championships. That's a lot of failure to deal with. In any event, he seems pretty fucked in the head now and his body is showing no signs of recovery. I don't doubt that he didn't help himself a lot of the time but its sad to see such a great talent and what seemed like a good kid get so many bad breaks. It eliminated his career and it may have screwed him up pretty bad mentally for life.
