It's funny, I knew you would quote that before i even copied the link...that's why I posted MULTIPLE SOURCES of evidence in regards to the issue. Also, that direct quote you refer to states ESPECIALLY within 72 hours. How you extracted the conclusion that 72 hours is the cutoff for alcohol hindering the healing process is beyond me.
Lol, I could get the same effect banging my head against a brick wall repeatedly rather than continue to argue with you. You argue for the sole purpose of arguing, no matter how terrible your hypotheticals are.
I never once claimed alcohol caused his injuries, especially the first one. That was your own stupid logic that came up with that. All I said was, and backed up with evidence, that it hindered the healing process. Yet you troll anyways. Hilarious.
I didn't extract that conclusion. I did, however, extract the conclusion that you are on an anti-alcohol crusade. Oden's got knee problems. He would have those problems whether or not he ever drank. Getting drunk doesn't help the healing process, sure, but it's absurd to suggest that he would have been fine if he was sober. barfo
It is not absurd to speculate. I'm not at all against alcohol use. I'm for it :thumbs up:. But this guy was a professional athlete who was fucking paid MILLIONS of dollars. Why do you think it's OK for professional athletes to develop alcohol problems? It's not. They are paid to stay in shape. Anything less is unprofessional. I'm not even saying that the direct effects of alcohol had much impact at all. They probably didn't. What I was trying to argue, and maybe you missed this, was that the disruption of his sleep patterns after use DID have an impact with healing. I'm not arguing that being drunk would cause problems.
Ok, I agree. On the other hand, professional athletes are pretty much anything but professional. Yes, in a perfect world, they'd avoid alcohol and various other temptations. But since they tend to be very young and very rich, they don't act that way. Is it ok? Well, it's ok with me because it's reality. If I was someone who thought that the world ought to operate according to my moral compass, I'd be plenty pissed about all sorts of things... maybe even this, although I doubt it. Ok, then we agree. Ok, sure. Maybe his sleep pattern disruption caused him to blow out his knee repeatedly. But you have no evidence whatsoever that he even suffered any sleep pattern disruption. barfo
Well, we as a board decided last July that we should try to reduce your self-esteem by whatever means possible. The goal is to get you out of the way so that we can have our way with your girlfriend. barfo
Yeah, but what other factor could you point to that would explain Oden's lengthy recovery timelines? Amare came back in like 5 months, played against us, then was held out. A couple months later and he was practicing with the olympic team. Kenyon Martin came back in 5 months. It took Oden at least a year, every single time. And still, he didn't hold up like those guys did. How many MFs has it been now, 3 or 4? Isn't that strange to you? That's why I'm shining a light on this possibility. http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/study_shows_limits_of_microfac.html
That is strange to me, and you are right - it is a possibility. However, there are about a billion other possibilities, such as he's just got bad knees. barfo
Let it be said also, that the ENTIRE point of microfracture is to intentionally initiate blood-clotting and a healing/regeneration process within the knee. Regardless, the guy is done in the NBA. Too many factors against him.
*fiancee It's going to take a lot more than a diminished self esteem to get her away from me. I bought her a brand new Kenmore stove from Sears. It has convection. Beat that!
Well, a lot of African American males are either shot at Killingsworth or at the Lloyd Center because they are involved with gangs. Thats a problem, with no upper class.
And then there's the third group--the people in the middle who are disappointed without being bitter; who see how Greg is mostly responsible for his own problems, but don't see him as deserving of anger.
