Batum will sign first lucrative offer sheet

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  1. RR7

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    You still offer up next to nothing as to why you think it's the easiest position to fill. Other than that it is average size. Except that all NBA players are above AVERAGE, so it seems the shortest players would be the easiest to fill. Other than height, though.....it is just because it is?
     
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    A coach can change his system to enable mediocre-shooting wings to get customized shooting position to make them look better than they are. The coach can easily stock SF with wannabe PFs and SG with wannabe PGs.
     
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    I agree it is much easier to find a serviceable SG\SF than it is to find a serviceable PG\C....just ask POR....
     
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    We had a "serviceable" PG, and have for a while. We haven't had a really good one we want to hold as PGOTF for years, but we had serviceable. same way we have a serviceable SG in Matthews, and had a serviceable SF in Webster when we had Roy here. Depends on how you want to define serviceable. Seems like people are ok with looking at serviceable at the SG position as just guys you can trot out there to be "3 and D" types, but then refuse to accept that someone like Kwame is a serviceable C because of his defense. There are plenty of serviceable Cs, and plenty of serviceable PGs. I'd argue there's more above average PGs and Cs and PFs than there are SGs and SFs, however. I'm not seeing an argument against that, other than no, it's just not the case.
     
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    I also pointed out that many (most, probably) wings can play SG or SF. That allows a player that is one-dimensional to get on the floor more easily (and be effective) if he's a swing player.

    I don't really need to convince you, because most people would acknowledge that PG and big guys are positions of scarcity. The other positions, then, are easier to fill. That's the SG and SF spots. If you want to go against conventional wisdom: that's great. You might be right. I don't think that comparing number of players with more-than-average PER between positions is indicative one way or the other, though.

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    It's conventional wisdom because it just gets repeated with little to back it up. How are they positions of scarcity? What measure of player are they scarce of? All stars? HOFs? Top players on team? What makes the PG position scarce of serviceable players, and the wings not?
    Yes, a lot of SGs can play SF and vice versa. Very similar to PFs and Cs. Or SFs and PFs. Or PGs and SGs. I don't see how SG and SF are any MORE interchangeable than PF and C, really.
     
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    Fun fact

    Jerryd Bayless had a higher PER than Nicolas Batum last year. Just sayin....


    Ooooh, also the guy we, in essence, traded him for
     
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    Is PER normalized for arm length?
     
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    Accounting for arm length, Bayless had the highest PER in league history
     
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    the 17th highest per in the nba to be exact...for pgs
     
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    Not bad for a non PG. 6th best SG PER
     
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    22 mpg
     
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    and a per of 12.3 as a sg

    he actually had a pretty good time running the point though
     
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    Ooh, where did you find his PER at SG?
     
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    Batum would be a monster in the SSOL system.

    With the spacing alone he'd get so many clean looks from three.
     
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  17. Mediocre Man

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    Thanks. I was looking for a site that did that.


    Side note, look at Batum's SG PER....Holy Shit!!!!


    I would have thought much higher
     
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    whoops
     
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    yeah me too....guess he was considered a sf more than i thought
     
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