He has impressive athletic ability for his size but he's a stretch PF. *Weak shooter *Weak post game *Low motor I remember watching him against South Dakota State and he totally blended in. Not in one way did he stand out other than his height.
I supose you are right, but for me I consider guys either like Channing Frye, Ryan Anderson, and Steve Novak who play away from the basket, and stretch the floor a stretch 4. They all lack the quickness to guard SF's and their is no POWER in their game. Or guys like Luke Babbit who are tweeners in size. But the one thing they all have in common is they can shoot the ball from the outside. I never would have considered a player who can't shoot very well, a stretch 4.
That's because stretch 4s who can't shoot last about two years in the league then get dropped to the NBDL then China. There's plenty of Stretch 4's that can't shoot; they're available for $25,000 a game for 10 games.
Couple comments about Perry Jones. First, he is an orphan who is raising his little sister. Second, he is considered a well above average student (at least for a jock). Does that sound like a "lazy" kid? He may need a coach who will push him to be more assertive - but I doubt anything is wrong with his motor/work ethic.
Reading a lot of scouting reports on Jeremy Lamb this weekend -- he is an intriguing SG prospect. I've been down on him because he's built like Chris Johnson. At least 2-3 years away from a physical standpoint but his shooting ability and length is intriguing. He's 6'5" with a (reported) 7'1" wingspan. Kinda like the Nicolas Batum of 2-guards with that wingspan. [video=youtube;fxbtin3UBjw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxbtin3UBjw&feature=related[/video] Not a bad option if we lose out on Beal.
Lamb looks good! 2 things though....... 1-be careful with highlight reels like this..... I made one for Joel once that made him look like a white Dwight Howard. He even laughed and said, "Damn, you made me look like an all-star!" 2- I think I'm setting myself up for failure! I think we are gonna get screwed and we will only get the 11th pick and get stuck with that cracker Zeller!
Highlight reels don't mean shit. All you can really tell is how athletic or strong they are and if they have a good looking shot. So many different systems and levels of competition they play against. The workouts and interviews the teams put the players through leading up to the draft are much more important.
Some advanced stats: 22.1 PER | 59 TS% | 102 DRtg | 5.8 WS Bradley Beals: 22 PER | 57 TS% | 96 DRtg | 6.0 WS Damian Lillard (note: weak Big Sky Conference) 34 PER | 63 TS% | 101 DRtg | 7.3 WS
History of the #6 Pick......... Number 6 Year Player School/Country – Team 2011 Jan Vesely, Czech Republic – Washington Wizards 2010 Ekpe Udoh, Baylor – Golden State Warriors 2000’s 2009 Johnny Flynn, Syracuse – Minnesota Timberwolves 2008 Danilo Gallinari, Italy – New York Knicks 2007 Yi Jianlian, China – Milwaukee Bucks 2006 Brandon Roy, Washington – Minnesota Timberwolves (Draft rights traded to Portland Trail Blazers) 2005 Martell Webster, Seattle Prep HS – Portland Trail Blazers 2004 Josh Childress, Stanford – Atlanta Hawks 2003 Chris Kaman, Central Michigan – L.A. Clippers 2002 Dajuan Wagner, Memphis – Cleveland Cavaliers 2001 Shane Battier, Duke – Memphis Grizzlies 2000 DerMarr Johnson, Cincinnati – Atlanta Hawks 1990’s 1999 Wally Szczerbiak, Miami (Ohio) – Minnesota Timberwolves 1998 Robert Traylor, Michigan – Dallas Mavericks (Draft rights traded to Milwaukee Bucks) 1997 Ron Mercer, Kentucky – Boston Celtics 1996 Antoine Walker, Kentucky – Boston Celtics 1995 Bryant Reeves, Oklahoma State – Vancouver Grizzlies 1994 Sharone Wright, Clemson – Philadelphia 76ers 1993 Calbert Cheaney, Indiana – Washington Wizards 1992 Tom Gugliotta, North Carolina State – Washington Bullets 1991 Doug Smith, Missouri – Dallas Mavericks 1990 Felton Spencer, Louisville – Minnesota Timberwolves
History of the #11 pick......... Number 11 Year Player School/Country – Team 2011 Klay Thompson, Washington State – Golden State Warriors 2010 Cole Aldrich, Kansas – New Orleans Hornets (Draft rights traded to OKC Thunder) 2000’s 2009 Terrence Williams, Louisville – New Jersey Nets 2008 Jerryd Bayless, Arizona – Indiana Pacers 2007 Acie Law IV, Texas A&M – Atlanta Hawks 2006 J.J. Redick, Duke – Orlando Magic 2005 Fran Vazquez, Spain – Orlando Magic 2004 Andris Biedrins, BK Skonto Riga (Latvia) – Golden State Warriors 2003 Mickael Pietrus, France – Golden State Warriors 2002 Jared Jeffries, Indiana – Washington Wizards 2001 Kedrick Brown, Okaloosa-Walton CC (Fla.) – Boston Celtics 2000 Jerome Moiso, UCLA – Boston Celtics 1990’s 1999 Trajan Langdon, Duke – Cleveland Cavaliers 1998 Bonzi Wells, Ball State – Detroit Pistons 1997 Olivier Saint-Jean, San Jose State – Sacramento Kings 1996 Todd Fuller, North Carolina State – Golden State Warriors 1995 Gary Trent, Ohio – Milwaukee Bucks (Draft rights traded to Portland Trail Blazers) 1994 Carlos Rogers, Tennessee State – Seattle Supersonics 1993 Allan Houston, Tennessee – Detroit Pistons 1992 Robert Horry, Alabama – Houston Rockets 1991 Terrell Brandon, Oregon – Cleveland Cavaliers 1990 Tyrone Hill, Xavier – Golden State Warriors
The history of both the #6 and #11 look pretty bad. Either way the team will lose. They will trade for immediate help (Iggy, Rondo etc.) or they will stick with the picks and whiff on them and people on the board will complain about how stupid management because they should have done whichever one they didn't so we all end up losing.
History of the #40th pick........... Number 40 Year Player School/Country – Team 2011 Jon Leuer, University of Wisconsin – Milwaukee Bucks 2010 Lance Stephenson, University of Cincinnati – Indiana Pacers 2000’s 2009 Derrick Brown, Xavier University – Charlotte Bobcats 2008 Chris Douglas-Roberts, University of Memphis – New Jersey Nets 2007 Sun Yue, China – L.A. Lakers 2006 Denham Brown, University of Connecticut – Seattle Supersonics 2005 Monta Ellis, Lanier H.S. (MS) – Golden State Warriors 2004 Justin Reed, University of Mississippi – Boston Celtics 2003 Derrick Zimmerman, Mississippi State University – Golden State Warriors 2002 Juan Carlos Navarro, Spain – Washington Wizards 2001 Jamison Brewer, Auburn University – Indiana Pacers 2000 Hanno Mottola, University of Utah – Atlanta Hawks 1990’s 1999 Gordan Giricek, Croatia – Dallas Mavericks 1998 Korleone Young, Hargrave Military Academy VA – Detroit Pistons 1997 Eddie Elisma, Georgia Institute of Technology – Seattle Supersonics 1996 Marcus Mann, Mississippi Valley State University – Golden State Warriors 1995 Dwayne Whitfield, Jackson State University – Golden State Warriors 1994 Jeff Webster, University of Oklahoma – Miami HEAT 1993 Rich Manning, University of Washington – Atlanta Hawks 1992 Steve Rogers, Alabama State University – New Jersey Nets 1991 Doug Overton, La Salle University – Detroit Pistons 1990 Bimbo Coles, Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University – Sacramento Kings
It's funny that Monta was taken at #40 and he arguably could be considered better than anyone at #11 and probably is top 3 at #6 for the past 20 years
History of the #41st Pick.......... Number 41 Year Player School/Country – Team 2011 Darius Morris, University of Michigan – L.A. Lakers 2010 Jarvis Varnado, Mississippi State University – Miami HEAT 2000’s 2009 Jodie Meeks, University of Kentucky – Milwaukee Bucks 2008 Nathan Jawai, Australia – Indiana Pacers 2007 Chris Richard, University of Florida – Minnesota Timberwolves 2006 James Augustine, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign – Orlando Magic 2005 Roko Ukic, Croatia – Toronto Raptors 2004 David Young, North Carolina Central University – Seattle Supersonics 2003 Willie Green, University of Detroit Mercy – Seattle Supersonics 2002 Mario Kasun, Croatia – L.A. Clippers 2001 Bobby Simmons, DePaul University – Seattle Supersonics 2000 Chris Carrawell, Duke University – San Antonio Spurs 1990’s 1999 Francisco Elson, University of California – Denver Nuggets 1998 Cuttino Mobley, University of Rhode Island – Houston Rockets 1997 Jason Lawson, Villanova University – Denver Nuggets 1996 Jason Sasser, Texas Tech University – Sacramento Kings 1995 Erik Meek, Duke University – Houston Rockets 1994 William Njoku, Canada – Indiana Pacers 1993 Anthony Reed, Tulane University – Chicago Bulls 1992 Popeye Jones, Murray State University – Houston Rockets 1991 Sean Green, Iona College – Indiana Pacers 1990 Steve Bardo, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign – Atlanta Hawks
I wonder what Monta didn't prove in workouts or how 30 teams passed on him? Other then he was fresh out of HS.
This is a great look at the worst 5 lottery picks over the past decade. Amazing how many teams make bad choices and nobody mentions them!!!!! http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ottery-picks-from-each-draft-class-since-2001
I believe he had major knee injuries during his HS career which was the main reason he slipped so far. I've read that many scouts would not go to his HS to see him play as well because his neighborhood is so rough, but Chris Mullin (Warriors GM at the time) went himself and was impressed. Also that year Monta tested as the 2nd worst "overall athlete" at the combine (first worst was some big man IIRC), largely because he couldn't do any bench reps but his agent also later suggested that he was hung over. So that tells you a lot about how those rankings can be misleading. Outside of that, I'm sure many scouts acknowledged that he's a pure SG in a PG's body. Looking back at his rookie year, his left hand has improved by leaps and bounds, hes added the 3 point shot, and hes put on a lot of muscle. He doesn't seem like the brightest spoon in the shed either which likely didn't help his stock. His talent was apparent but I reckon most GMs weren't going to take a gamble on a tweener HS kid who's already blown a knee with their first round pick.
