Lowry for #6 and The statistic I'd like to see

I look at his PER and think the exact opposite. He had a 14 PER and the average NBA players PER is 15.00.

 

By the way, i would be happy to trade the #6 for Lowry if we couldn't get Dragic without trading anything. A proven above average PG who keeps improving and is entering his prime years over a risky pick, no question for me.

 

I guess i just use the eyeball test; he's a guy I would want as a teammate; i won't deny he has some weaknesses.

 

I agree with you. I just don't think he is a starting caliber SG in the NBA, and would be fine dealing him for someone who might have more upside

 

I think it's possible you're getting a little bit sidetracked by the numeric value of the pick (6th overall in the draft is high!) and aren't looking at it in terms of the actual player it represents.

Ask yourself these two questions: 1. Is Drummond, Sullinger, PJIII, Lilliard, Barnes, etc. likely to be a better pro than Lowry is right now and probably will be for at least the next 4 years or so? 2. If the goal is to surround LMA with players, how much time does he have left as a prime NBA power-forward 4 years, 5, 6? So given a two or three year development window for a 6h pick, is it maximizing LMA's best years to add this mythical sixth pick instead of trading it for a really, really good point like Kyle Lowry? I don't know if there is a definitive answer, but I would lean toward thinking that Lowry is likely to be able to contribute more quickly to this team returning to competitiveness with LMA as the centerpiece (that's the key). If LMA is on the block and tradable, then I would be more inclined to keep the pick because you can take a more long-run POV and can afford the 2 to 3 years development if you go young and you're not worried about surrounding LaMarcus with help.

The whole linchpin for keeping or trading the pick is Aldridge and what Olshey wants to do with him.

 

the best case scenario is that Ewill or Nic becomes the starting SG and/or we draft a replacemnt wing who could become an SF or SG starter down the road and Wes becomes the backup or is traded down the road

 

What I can't help asking myself is that if Lowry is such a good PG (starting caliber NBA PG) why is Houston so determined to resign Drajic this summer? How good can Lowry really be when the franchise he plays for is ready to commit big dollars to Drajic and create a situation where Lowry publically demands a trade?

Doesn't seem like Houston think a lot of Lowry . . . or do I have this wrong?

 

I'm with ya. I'm holding out hope that Matthews will soon be a James Harden type player coming off the bench. I know, very wishfull thinking, but possible.
I want E.Williams to develop into our starting SG.

 

They're not even close to being the same caliber of player. Harden is basically like a younger version of Ginobli, Matthews is like the same age version of ... well, just about any generic catch and shoot shooting guard in the NBA.

 

Yeah I like Matthews but he just a nice bench player. He just does not have the handles to be anything close to an allstar. And Hardin is.

Regarding Lowry, his attitude does bother me, but I think his skills are worth consideration of the 6th pick. Not saying i would do it because like most of you it is June and I am caught up with the hype of the soon to be rookies. But there may not be much difference between 6 and 11. A back court of Lowry and one of those many rookie SG's would not be horrible.

I still wouldn't do it though.

 

maybe I have it all wrong, but I see Lowry and Dragic as the Rockets two most valuable players who just happen to play the same position. If they can resign Dragic, they probably hope to trade Lowry for value that helps round out their team. The problem with that is Dragic is an Unrestricted Free Agent and Houston doesn't have his Bird rights... the only leg up they have on other teams in getting him to sign with them is that he wouldn't have to move. Who knows how tied he is to the Rockets after 2 seasons there but I'm guessing that sentiment pales vs an opportunity to win next year and beyond. If it's Portland and Houston vying for his services and the dollars are close, I think the Blazers clearly have a younger & better core.

STOMP

 

and a good salesman (Olshey) to sell the vision to him and his agent....

 

Hardin can drive/finish as he's got much more explosive jumping ability. Aside from that, Wes is a good athlete & solid catch and shoot deep threat and defender. He's not going to be part of anyone's "Big Three" but I've no problem with him being a starter outside of that equation. He'd match up best with a PG who excelled in the drive and kick game... like Goran. The same could be said for Portland's other solid spot up shooter Nic Batum

STOMP

 

I think salesmanship is one of the most underrated qualities a GM can have. The owner, other GM's, fans and agents all have to be sold. Assuming he values the right guys opinion (cough) Born (cough) then it's a great match

 

Agree 100% and Olshey seems to be good at it.

 

Seems to be

 

I agree. Just remember salesmen are often full of shit. So we should not get upset when he tells us one thng and does the opposite. Especially during the draft and the trade deadline.

 

What fun is that?