[Pick #11] A case for Meyers Leonard

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  1. VanillaGorilla

    VanillaGorilla Well-Known Member

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    If we got him at 11 I'd be pleased. Don't like him enough to move up for him at all.
     
    VanillaGorilla, Jun 10, 2012
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  2. Mediocre Man

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    A case against Myers Leonard

    He is white
     
    Mediocre Man, Jun 10, 2012
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  3. Rastapopoulos

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    Right now I'd feel happier with Kyle O'Quinn than either Leonard or Drummond. Especially given what each would cost.
     
    Rastapopoulos, Jun 10, 2012
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  4. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    A case for Meyers Leonard:

    Hasheem Thabeet is black.

    BNM
     
    Boob-No-More, Jun 10, 2012
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  5. Mediocre Man

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    Cool, I will play this game. You name all of the white all star American born centers in the last 25 years, and I will name all of the black ones.
     
    Mediocre Man, Jun 10, 2012
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  6. Rastapopoulos

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    So what you meant to say was "a case against Meyers Leonard: he is white and American"
     
    Rastapopoulos, Jun 10, 2012
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  7. MickZagger

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    I like Leonard. There's actually not too many guys I'd be devastated if we drafted. But, I'm not huge on Zeller, Henson, Barnes (at #6), Moultrie and Lamb.

    Leonard can do some things athletically that I dont see a legit 7 footer doing on a regular basis. His problem from watching him this year was that he'd pickup a couple early fouls and mind fuck himself acting like a baby on the bench.
     
    MickZagger, Jun 11, 2012
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    and you think that is going to IMPROVE in the NBA?

    I don't like Meyers Leonard at all...He is you typical, looks the part but can't act\play for shit...

    He has got all the measureables that I am sure Chad Buchanan just loves....but when you watch him play, he seems incapable of capitalizing on them.....
     
    Blaze01, Jun 11, 2012
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  9. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    A leonard can't change his spots.
     
    jlprk, Jun 11, 2012
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  10. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    How many times did you watch him play at Illinois?
     
    MickZagger, Jun 11, 2012
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  11. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Maybe? But that's the fun of the draft, we don't know really how 90% of these guys are going to turn out (actually not true, because we know 75% of them are going to suck).
     
    Nikolokolus, Jun 11, 2012
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    not to butt in but jeez how many times did you watch him at illinois?
     
    3RA1N1AC, Jun 11, 2012
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  13. MickZagger

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    Several.

    The problem I have is when guys around here admit that they don't watch college hoops, don't put any kind of discussion into college hoops when its brought up on this board. But then, as soon as the draft roll's around they act like experts and try and dispute and refute prospects like they know anything about the prospect outside of the month long hype brigade that draft websites give them.

    Moral of the story:

    Don't get bossy on prospect prognosticating when you just found out about a guy a month ago.
     
    MickZagger, Jun 11, 2012
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    i can get behind this

    but watching a guy play 2 games doesnt exactly make you a scout either...you can find out nearly all there is to know just reading most draft sites and getting their experienced take on a prospect, and then watching a few highlite videos on youtube :lol:
     
    3RA1N1AC, Jun 11, 2012
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  15. MickZagger

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    I watch more college than pro outside of Blazer games.

    Every player in the draft is going to have strengths and weaknesses on those sites. So why bash guys if you haven't seen them play in live action and are just going by scouts take. Obviously every guy in the draft is going to have pro's and con's.
     
    MickZagger, Jun 11, 2012
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  16. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I think I used to fall prey to this trap a lot in past years, where I would be 'certain' about guys (good or bad) and at most only watched them play maybe 3 or 4 times (when I was much more into college hoops). At best I can say I get a gut feeling about some guys when I watch them play and the hit rate is about 30% on them actually turning into serviceable NBA players or busting. There are far more guys that I never notice who turn into good players.

    There are too many variables in player development, motivation, systems and trying to translate what you see at one level to the next. It's still fun to talk about and offer opinions and impressions, but there's nothing to go to the mat over.
     
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    Nikolokolus, Jun 11, 2012
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  17. MickZagger

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    Exactly. Which is why I don't understand why some get irate in here if someone thinks Leonard will be a good pick.
     
    MickZagger, Jun 11, 2012
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  18. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    If anything Andre Drummond sounds more like Thabeet.
     
    Eastoff, Jun 11, 2012
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  19. Mediocre Man

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    True. Leonard sounds a lot like BJ Mullins
     
    Mediocre Man, Jun 11, 2012
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  20. MickZagger

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    Mullins showed a lot of promise this year.
     
    MickZagger, Jun 11, 2012
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