Huh? I never said they would match with OKC or Miami.... I want the Blazers to get as much talent as possible. I have faith in Olshey getting us talent and then trying to move talent for guys that we need if it doesn't work out. Paul doesn't want to trade Aldridge and start over, so I'd like us to get more talent. Once you have more talent, then you can look at two for one deals to bring in a top notch player if Noah, Lillard, Batum Aldridge, Wes doesn't work. You'd hope Lillard and Aldridge could be a 1-2 punch. This all banks on how the Blazers view Lillard. Indiana seemed to do OK against Miami. Do they have an elite trio? No. But they have tons of great pieces that they may be able to upgrade with. I'd love to have that roster and you could argue that none of the Pacers are better than Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Bosh, LBJ, or Wade.
Dude we fucking get it you don't like Lillard. No one cares what you think any more than anyone else on this board. You are not better than anyone else on this board unless you can tell me the teams you've been a scout for and how well your scouting reports turned out for that team. Lots of people, fans and scouts/experts alike, want or predict the Blazers to pick Lillard at #6. Get over it.
The ridiculous thing is you think the goal is to be able to beat the respective conference champions next year. That is not the goal. Right now the goal should be to make the playoffs next year, something we couldn't do this year. If you're ambitious it should be to get out of the first round next year.
Agree to disagree then, b\c I think that is a team that is going absolutely nowhere...exactly what Olshey said in his press confrence that he would like to avoid....
That is the ultimate goal and ANY moves made should be done with that in mind....to not think that way is ridiculous...... and many don't as well...so why don't you get over your hate fest on anyone who dares to disagree with the guy you obviously have a man crush on...talk about getting over it... You like him, others don't...last time I checked it was a free country....
How do you suggest the Blazers do that? Shouldn't they obtain as much talent as possible? It's clear Paul isn't interested in moving Aldridge for draft picks and going the Rich Cho route. You sure as hell aren't going to get a top 3 draft pick with Aldridge around unless he is hurt for a season. Get talent, it makes trades easier. Noah is a talent and if he can be had for #11 and change, you do it.
You and Fez are the ones who hate on Lillard, and anyone who suggests we pick him, EVERY SINGLE TIME someone brings it up. I don't have anything close to a man crush on Lillard, I wouldn't be upset with Drummond at #6 and I'd be ecstatic if any of Barnes/Beal/MKG/Robinson magically fell to us, I just think Lillard will be better than the other guards projected later in the lottery, mostly because he's the only PG and he's also the best shooter, so if we take a guard at #6 I do want it to be him. I don't understand the kick you guys get out bashing Lillard and anyone who likes him over and over again. You don't say anything new about him, you just repeat the same stuff over and over again, and even discount a poster's entire opinion because of it. I know I shouldn't get worked up over guys on a forum but it gets extremely annoying.
I agree with that sentiment, and that certainly seems like Olshey's mindset.... First, I am not even convinced that CHI woud trade Noah for the 11th pick, I think that is wishful thinking....2nd, he is a good player who has been hurt a fair amount of the time...3rd, acquiring him would likely use up a majority of the cap space that POR has...meaning no other FA acquisitions...and no 11th pick either.....and you are about to overpay Batum, who in 5 years in the league has yet to show any sort of consistency to be a 3rd wheel of a big 3 on the team...and invest all your hope in a 22yr old PG from Weber State to become your team's 2nd best or best player....That is a lot of wishful thinking IMO... I don't see a lot of team's lining up to deal thier mega stars to POR for an overpaid rotation player or a highly paid big man who is locked up at $11-14mil for the next 4 years and always seems to find his way on the dl, or a combo scoring guard who is probably better served coming off the bench.... like I stated earlier, agree to disagree...I do not think that this is the particular way to go....Nor is it likely even feasible....
lol, you shouldn't.... Said lots of things\reasons why I didn't like him...but you don't read\want to hear it...and that is fine...
I agree that I don't think Chicago would deal Noah for #11. I would definitely do it if it was offered though. Definitely is a lot of wishful thinking, I agree with you on that. I just wouldn't be upset if all of that did happen. I want talent on our team. I'm not even a huge fan of Lillard, but if we did draft him I'd root like hell for him because I'm a fan of the team no matter what.
No, I've read your reasons, I've even stated your concerns are valid a number of times, it's just the way you say your opinions combined with the number of times you've said them. It's redundant, annoying, and counter productive. Why not talk about who you would like the Blazers to draft at #6, and go into depth about why you think that way? I'd love to read your comments on the player(s) you want, because I don't think you're stupid and you're a Blazer fan just like I am.
Why? Because he will say Chicago wouldn't trade #11 for Noah? I think everyone has said they doubt Chicago would trade noah for #11. You said you wouldn't even deal #11 for Noah which is a bigger slap in the face to a Bulls fan.
Enlighten us. I'd still take him for #11. He is 27. Has a near 20 PER. Is on a decent contract for an arguable top 5 center in the league. He Could easily be moved in a year or two if we decided he wouldn't work. Already laid out that our starting lineup would be $45 million with $25 million to spend on the rest of the roster before we hit lux tax land. What's not to like in our wishful thinking (knowing Chicago wouldn't do it)?
Shit, I would do it. Yes I'd regret it later, when Deng and Noah are injured all the time, but on the other hand, I could die tomorrow. If the Bulls would do Deng and Noah for the #6 and 11 (and Shawne Williams? And Wes? Or can we absorb both of their salaries into our capspace? I doubt it) then I say HELL YES! Then: re-sign Batum as our starting shooting guard (what he plays for France), draft Scott Machado, or Andre Albicy if Machado is gone, in the second round, and sign Bo McCalebb (somehow getting him out of his contract with Siena - a horse's head in a bed might be involved) or failing that, Pablo Prigioni, or hope some PG gets amnestied. Realizing that we're now out of money to sign Freeland and Claver, we trade their rights for mid-to-low first round picks and either take the mad flyers like Wroten (to please Fez who thinks we can only rebuild by lucking into a star in the draft) or players guaranteed to contribute, like Draymond Green, and Bob's your uncle! Instant playoff team! (Or trade Freeland to some team that's likely to suck in a year or two in exchange for a pick that will be unprotected in a year or two.)
Oh, and by the way, there's no way in HELL that Chicago trades Noah for #11. Or if they offer it, run away - it means they know Noah has some terminal disease.
Noah for #6 would be fine by me if we can still work a deal to get Lillard with #11. Noah is a huge reason he Bulls ended the season atop the East standing at 50-16 when Rose missed a large chunk of the season. At 27, he's a center you can count on for the next decade.
