Zombie 2012 NBA Draft

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by B-Roy, Feb 17, 2012.

  1. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    28,944
    Likes Received:
    9,598
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Phone Psychic
    Location:
    The Deep State, US and A.
    Derp.

    I wonder why?

    Derp.
     
  2. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2008
    Messages:
    18,386
    Likes Received:
    12,522
    Trophy Points:
    113
    A shrewd move by the team maybe, but a completely idiotic one by Waiters if his workouts would have made him go higher. That's the guy you want at 6. Comfortable falling to someone, rather than prove himself, and get into the top 6 or so.
     
  3. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    37,121
    Likes Received:
    15,978
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    UPS
    Location:
    V-Town Baby
    lol. I just want to see how he measured out in the vert. Is that too much to ask?
     
  4. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    28,944
    Likes Received:
    9,598
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Phone Psychic
    Location:
    The Deep State, US and A.
    That's between the agent and the Blazers ....I mean, the secret team. :devilwink:
     
  5. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Messages:
    26,073
    Likes Received:
    9,027
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Someone who watched more Duke than I did this year tell me if the claim that Rivers can play PG is BS or not. Pruiti's writeup seems to say he's Wall-esque, which seems to be a good fit if we have, say, MKG and Batum on the wings.

    But in the games I saw he was like Jerryd Bayless against NJN. Sure, he scored...even some cojone shots...but I didn't watch him and think "man, he could dominate from PG like Wall or Rose if the ball was always in his hands"
     
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2012
  6. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    28,944
    Likes Received:
    9,598
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Phone Psychic
    Location:
    The Deep State, US and A.
    Haynes mentioned this at the combine. He believes his best position on this level will be at PG.
     
  7. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,598
    Likes Received:
    56,030
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    I've watched enough games to know that Rivers won't ever play PG. He might be a high USG% player, but in no right mind would anyone call him a PG.
     
  8. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2008
    Messages:
    18,386
    Likes Received:
    12,522
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Again, stupid of Waiters. He's too scared to go up against Beal, Barnes, Lamb, etc. and push himself into top tier. He's below guys, and scared to work out. Lillard is seen as the top PG. Most everyone views him as such. Working out against Marshall, etc. could only hurt, and is proving something only to people on message boards.
     
  9. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2008
    Messages:
    18,386
    Likes Received:
    12,522
    Trophy Points:
    113
    On top of that, if your major concern is him not being a PG, but a short SG, what is a 1 on 1 workout going to prove? nothing.
     
  10. BLAZINGGIANTS

    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2008
    Messages:
    22,015
    Likes Received:
    14,574
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Rivers can be a PG. Honestly, that's originally why I thought we liked him - we would play him there. Getting someone with his versatility still leaves the ability to improve at either guard position. Or draft Rivers and Lillard and run a 3-guard rotation with Wessy too.
     
  11. VanillaGorilla

    VanillaGorilla Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2009
    Messages:
    12,073
    Likes Received:
    4,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't think Rivers will ever be a PG. He makes bad passes and takes worse shots. He's going to be an instant offense SG off the bench on a good team, or starting ball hog SG on a bad team.
     
  12. VanillaGorilla

    VanillaGorilla Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2009
    Messages:
    12,073
    Likes Received:
    4,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
  13. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2008
    Messages:
    18,386
    Likes Received:
    12,522
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And his evidence was from a guy who said he'd take Jae Crowder early in the lottery as well. So.....I'll take those opinions with a large grain of salt. Sometimes, you can stare too hard at stats, and forget the game is still played on the court, and not on paper. I appreciate stats, and all they can tell us, but completely discounting things like the ability to create shots for oneself, and saying he'd pick Crowder early lotto kills my desire to listen too much.
     
  14. VanillaGorilla

    VanillaGorilla Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2009
    Messages:
    12,073
    Likes Received:
    4,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Did he say he'd pick Crowder early in the lottery or that that's where his stats dictate he should be taken? There's a big difference IMO. Because he's probably right about Crowder. I think in 2 years he will without a doubt be one of the top 14 players from this draft.
     
  15. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    28,944
    Likes Received:
    9,598
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Phone Psychic
    Location:
    The Deep State, US and A.
    Crowder should be a first round pick but I don't think he will.
     
  16. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2008
    Messages:
    18,386
    Likes Received:
    12,522
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He said:
     
  17. PapaG

    PapaG Banned User BANNED

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    32,870
    Likes Received:
    291
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Tualatin, OR
    Gonzaga was a shitty program when Stockton was there, and had never won an NCAA tournament game until long after Stockton left.

    Santa Clara was made by Steve Nash, and was also a shitty program with no NCAA history to speak of before Nash played there with one NCAA tournament appearance prior to Nash in the last 23 years.

    Weber State has advanced 2x out of the first round of the NCAAs in the last 20 years. Oregon State can't even claim that.
     
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2012
  18. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    37,121
    Likes Received:
    15,978
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    UPS
    Location:
    V-Town Baby
    Harold "the show" Arceneaux!!!
     
  19. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    40,884
    Likes Received:
    25,095
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'
    Every year there are players taken late in the draft who, if you ranked the players a year later, would be in the top 15. He's saying Jae Crowder will turn out to be one of those players.

    Every year there are players taken in the lottery who shouldn't have been drafted. He's saying Rivers is one of those guys.

    Sounds pretty plausible to me.

    (Yes, no doubt Rivers has a nicer HoopMixTape than Crowder can ever hope to have. But I'm sure that was true of God Shammgod too.)
     
  20. PapaG

    PapaG Banned User BANNED

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    32,870
    Likes Received:
    291
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Tualatin, OR
    Ruben Nembhard, former Blazer great!

    Those two teams beat Michigan State and North Carolina, respectively, in the first round. Montana's won a few games as well the last 15 years.
     

Share This Page