I hope so, because it's an obvious way to screw over another team, and really makes improving a team via FA almost impossible.
I'm not saying Hibbert is a lumbering center but the need for those big centers is getting less and less. To me it's much easier to nuetralize a big man these days, especially with the foul trouble that slashing guards cause. I like the idea of signing him and forcing other teams to deal with our size inside, just not sure it makes THAT much better.
I think Jaynes is full of shit, the Clippers did all their signings under the cap and then matched DeAndre Jordans contract.
actually, just last year, Clippers waited on matching on DeAndre, to keep room and sign others, and THEN matched. But his offer didn't count against them. Jaynes is wrong.
I think Jaynes numbers are off. The first year for Hibbert's MAX deal is closer to $12.9mil, not $14. Also, the Blazers could renounce every signle one of their free agents and Euros except Freeland to create more cap room. They can also waive Shawne Williams and use the stretch provision to create a little more cap room. They don't want to do it but could if they have to. Eliminating Batum's cap hold, the Blazers could have $22.7 to $24.3mil in cap room. Subtract the $12.9mil to Hibbert and that leaves $9.8mil to $11.4mil in cap room to match Batum, or to renounce his rights and try to sign other free agents.
He also averaged 3.8 bpg in the first round, leading the Pacers to their first series win in years. He averaged 2.5 bpg in the second round and helped the Pacers take a 2-1 lead in the first round. If any team is going to beat the Heat in the next 5 years, it will be a team win a dominant center. Hibbert is a top 3 center in the league. He's Oden but healthy. This is FANTASTIC news if we get him.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7346761/los-angeles-clippers-match-golden-state-warriors-offer-sheet-deandre-jordan
You're crazy. Hibbert would be the second best center in the West with the potential to become #1. Eliot Williams is forgotten here. Joel Brooks took Thunder from lotto to NBA Finals in three years. Nate doesn't compare. He's completely worth the max. He's Oden without injuries or foul trouble. No, no, no. It's not that the NEED for dominant centers is getting less and less. It's that there AREN'T many dominant centers. Hibbert gave the Heat trouble. Thunder lost to Heat because they're big guys sucked. Getting Hibbert is essential to have a chance at winning it all. It's ridiculous to say big men don't matter. How do you think Orlando made it to Finals in '09? How do you think Dallas won in '11?
ok, lets look at this statement. Bynum Howard Marc G are any of these guys game changing in your opinion? Hibbert is the next guy on this list. Ten times better than anything we have feilded with the exception on the promise of GO...well we all know how that worked out.
19 PER on 20 USG is pretty effin' efficient for a guy whose calling card is defense. In the playoffs, he went to a 21 PER on 19 USG. I want him, and I think Indy would be crazy to let him go.
I don't see it. Don't think he is dominant at all. I think you use that term too loosely. Joel is a free agent
But he is. He rebounds at a high rate, he blocks shots at a high rate (potential to be Defensive Player of the Year multiple times), and has a decent offensive game with potential to improve. There is only one other center (Bynum) in the West that is better than Hibbert and that could change as Hibbert develops.
In the playoffs in 11 games against two teams with no real center (Magic, Heat) he didn't really dominant The only thing he dominated in was blocks. After that he was 12/11 on 50% shooting. This is against two teams with no real center.
Hibbert had a better PER than Marc Gasol last year. He's a legitimate top 5 center, given what he proved in the playoffs.
Hibbert averaged 12/11/3 in second playoffs of his career. Isn't that what we dreamed Oden would be if healthy?
Um, the point is that he dominated those teams on the defensive end of the court. Who cares if they didn't have a center? Is it his fault that players like him are a rarity?
